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Air France-KLM adds biofuel surcharge to plane tickets
France24 ^ | January 10, 2022

Posted on 01/10/2022 11:13:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Paris (AFP) – Air France-KLM said Monday it would add a surcharge of up to 12 euros ($13,50) on its tickets to try to offset the cost of using more expensive sustainable aviation fuel.

Sustainable aviation fuel or SAF is chiefly made from used cooking oil or from forestry or agricultural waste.

It allows airlines to reduce carbon emissions by 75 percent compared with kerosene over the lifecycle of the fuel.

Jet fuel currently accounts for between 20 and 30 percent of airlines' costs.

Take-up of SAF, which is between four and eight times more expensive, has been slow.

Current production levels fall far below what would be required to power the world's aircraft fleet.

In 2019, sustainable fuel represented less than 0.1 percent of the 360 billion litres of fuel used by the aviation industry.

Air France said it was confident that the cost of SAF would fall as more European countries begin mass producing them.

On Thursday, the airline will start offering passengers who are anxious to reduce the carbon footprint of their flight the chance to make a donation towards the purchase of extra sustainable fuel.

Air France vowed that every euro donated would be invested in SAF.

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1 posted on 01/10/2022 11:13:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

On Thursday, the airline will start offering passengers who are anxious to reduce the carbon footprint of their flight the chance to make a donation towards the purchase of extra sustainable fuel.

Air France vowed that every euro donated would be invested in SAF.

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I solemnly pledge to send them every Euro I own.


2 posted on 01/10/2022 11:21:18 AM PST by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

One reliable thing about liberals:

What they want always costs more money but never gives additional value, in fact it usually gives less.


3 posted on 01/10/2022 11:43:56 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If it ain’t JP8, I ain’t going.

Pratt & Whitey don’t do vegetable oil.

5.56mm


4 posted on 01/10/2022 11:47:23 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: M Kehoe

Yeah had me wondering too

Wonder about the long term effects on engines


5 posted on 01/10/2022 12:42:04 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: M Kehoe

(On Thursday, the airline will start offering passengers who are anxious to reduce the carbon footprint of their flight the chance to make a donation towards the purchase of extra sustainable fuel.)

What a great scam.


6 posted on 01/10/2022 12:43:23 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good golly. Airplane interiors smell bad enough already. Now they’re gonna smell like french fries?


7 posted on 01/10/2022 1:02:23 PM PST by moovova
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“It allows airlines to reduce carbon emissions by 75 percent compared with kerosene over the lifecycle of the fuel.”

The jet engines emit about the same amount of CO2 along the same routes.

There are two main separate environmental issues for airlines:
1. CO2 in the atmosphere
2. sustainable fuel

Dealing with issue #2 is not dealing the issue #1.


8 posted on 01/10/2022 1:32:20 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: SaveFerris

Greenwashing is a scam IMO.

The effect of CO2 emissions can vary by where and when.


9 posted on 01/10/2022 1:34:27 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Biofuel is fuel that uses food instead of oil.
Note that everything the democrats / socialists want always cost more and makes no sense to do. Of course they are making a lot of money getting their cut.


10 posted on 01/10/2022 10:39:10 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: M Kehoe

Most of the SAF in production are synthetic iso paraffins not FAEs which don’t have the cold flow properties needed for high altitude flight.

https://aviationbenefits.org/environmental-efficiency/climate-action/sustainable-aviation-fuel/producing-sustainable-aviation-fuel/

The U.S.Navy is making JP8 directly from seawater they plan on using nuclear power to fuel the process. Even at $6 per gallon on a carrier that’s still cheaper then shipping oil half way around the world to the Gulf Coast refining it to JP8 then putting it back on a Navy tanker ship and shipping it half way back around the world to the carrier at sea with underway replenishment which is the current practice. Jet fuel in the active theater such as the rock pile can cost upwards of $400 a gallon when the cost of transport into a war zone is included the GAO has detailed numbers for those willing to look for them in a yearly basis. So the Navy said let use our nukes to make jet fuel right where we need it.

https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/chemical-catalyst-helps-convert-seawater-into-fuel-industrial-scale-444112/

This same catalyst can and will be used on land to turn water plus co2 which conveniently is 150 times more sense in seawater vs air into synthetic jet fuels it’s not a matter of if but when. The.Chinese are building 150+ new reactors in the next decade full half of them are going to be used for process heat and hydrogen production for synthetic fuels they will be the world dominate leader in that technology in less than a decade with a virtually endless supply of synthetic fuels. A paradigm shift in the energy landscape is happening regardless of what luddites think or want the whole planet is in a second industrial revolution it’s coming like it or not.


11 posted on 01/11/2022 4:11:36 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Brian Griffin

If you take the co2 out of the air to make the fuel in the first place when you burn it you only out the same Co2 back the net effect is not an increase in co2. Unlike when you take carbon that has been underground for millions of years and burn that into co2 that now adds to the amount in the atmosphere. This is basic 6th grade level carbon cycle. It’s not up for debate that burning millions plus year old carbon raises the co2 levels in the atmosphere that has been accurately measured for hundreds of years and is basic science. What is up for debate is how much a 200ppm difference in co2 levels has on the energy balance in the upper atmosphere. It’s a myth that 97% or what ever number is thrown around agreed that 200ppm is going to doom the planet to 2C of warming. The planet was 10C warmer in the not so distant past it previously was named a thermal optimum there was zero polar ice caps the whole planet was green and biomass was double what it is today. Sea levels were also 200+ feet higher it’s happened before and will happen again the primary driver of those cycles is the earth’s orbital period and variations of axis tilt relative to the plane of the ecliptic.


12 posted on 01/11/2022 4:20:18 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

JP8 from seawater. Brilliant.

Thanks, I didn’t know that.

5.56mm


13 posted on 01/11/2022 8:12:24 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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