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The U.S. Economy Remains #1 in 2021, But What About Our Future?
Townhall.com ^ | January 10, 2022 | Timothy Nash

Posted on 01/10/2022 4:51:15 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/10/2022 4:51:15 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The only way for china to continue growing is to colonize more territory and replace the native populations.

The CCP doesn't want to implode, so Xi will choose to Maotastasize.

2 posted on 01/10/2022 5:02:14 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Kaslin
There are a billion (plus) people in China who are willing to work 14 hours a day,6 days a week for $1.25 an hour because otherwise they'd starve to death.

OTOH,more and more Americans are satisfied with getting that SSDI check every month.

That's our future.

3 posted on 01/10/2022 5:08:36 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Sirius Lee
"Maotastasize"

Ha!
Good one!

4 posted on 01/10/2022 5:11:15 AM PST by GaltAdonis (As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Kaslin
So what is happening to "productive" GDP in the US, you know goods and services that actually provide something for people. You know, cut out the regulatory bonanza and the WOT bonanza and the law enforcement bonanza and the COVID nonsense bonanza. You know folks that make something, or build something, or fix something, or feed someone or provide for health and happiness - you know the parts where people willingly part with their own money in a free market [and not government coerced] exchange. I have a problem here. The McKinsey crowd advised how much more profitable US businesses would be if they offshored all of their productive work to, just to pick a random example, China, while we kept the intellectual work here. Well we have seen the quality of intellectual workers we have kept when you look at the Mandate oral argument in the USSC, or when you look at the stupidity that comes out of our most elite universities. It seems when you decouple intellectual work from real work you get mush.

So again, when China starts calling in its chits what GDP of the US is going to chip in to pay off our legal debts?

5 posted on 01/10/2022 5:30:07 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Gay State Conservative

The question we need to ask is why the USA stopped growing. We have more land than China. If we had kept the growth rates of 1920 there would be a billion Americans now.

What happened to five children families being the norm? Feminism and atheism are the causes.


6 posted on 01/10/2022 5:32:21 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: Kaslin

Speculative speculation founded on rumors


7 posted on 01/10/2022 5:33:28 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) California needs Zorro to destroy the neoNobility corruption)
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China is crashing. They have just locked down their largest manufacturing region. Realize that the region in question imports 60% of their calories by ship. So, locking down the Port means people will go hungry.


8 posted on 01/10/2022 5:33:44 AM PST by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind blows too much)
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To: Sirius Lee

“The only way for china to continue growing is to colonize more territory and replace the native populations.”

The vast and empty lands of Siberia and Central Asia are on China’s doorstep. The Russian strategy is to sell China whatever it wants from these regions, to avoid a conflict Russia would lose.

The big question for this century is if this strategy will work.


9 posted on 01/10/2022 5:35:37 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: AndyJackson
Let's consider the author's conclusions in reverse order.

The United States must "grow capital investment, private-sector job and economic growth" with "fiscal, monetary and foreign policy." To do that we must stop "excessive government spending on programs that are not needed." That is important because "our national debt at about $30 trillion is due to excessive government spending."

I would add, If we do not control our national debt there will be nothing left in the private sector i.e. no capital, needed for production. The reverse is also true, if we want to stop increasing inflation the least painful way is to increase production, i.e. supply, to match demand. We need to be more productive and that takes capital as well as infrastructure and culture. The author cites government policies that are choking capital, investment and growth that, when compounded by profligate fiscal spending and unending monetary stimulus, are the root cause of our dilemma. In other words, government is depriving the private sector of capital through "economic cost" and at the same time stoking inflation with government policies.

Why don't we simply reverse those policies?

Because politicians always find it better to offer constituents dessert rather than telling them to eat their vegetables. Because giveaway programs cause harm that is diffuse, obscure and generally unrecognized while giving away benefits are focused and identifiable so politicians prosper as politicians. But new elements have entered the American scene beyond the traditional cupidity of politicians.

First, crony capitalism has virtually taken control of our administrative state through regulatory capture, a classic example of which we are presently experiencing in the Covid vaccination mandates.

Second, inflation has not bitten until now because America's unique status as the world's reserve currency and only superpower gave us, for a season, unlimited power to borrow and spend without visible consequences. That is without obvious inflation. So politicians and Federal Reserve bankers felt free to keep the music playing.

Finally, all of these problems that we have relate to China. If we want to increase production to match supply and curb inflation, we find that our manufacturing base has been sent to China. If we want to retain capital for investment in America, we find that our pension funds have sent our seed corn to China. If our supply chain is in a shambles, a major part of the problem lies in China.

Worse, if we want to arouse public opinion to support reversing these very policies, we find that every American institution that should grow that support from academia to big sports, to Wall Street, to big media and big tech have all been infiltrated and co-opted by China. Follow the money and we find that virtually every major institution in America has been corrupted by China.

So our politicians who are inclined anyway to keep the music playing, who were not until now discomforted by inflation, conveniently find that there is no institutional pressure to deal with the very root cause of our dilemma. No institution that is except Donald Trump and his unwashed, deplorable supporters stand at the gate against the barbarians.


10 posted on 01/10/2022 5:45:02 AM PST by nathanbedford
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great post!


11 posted on 01/10/2022 5:49:10 AM PST by AndyJackson
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Problem is our intellectual elite have been playing Chutes and Ladders while the Chinese have been playing Go. A Panama canal here, a port there, a road through South America, who cares? Except that when you start to see how the played pieces you didn’t care about connect together and cut you off, it is too late.


12 posted on 01/10/2022 5:51:19 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Sirius Lee

They still have half a population in poverty, making both the aspiring labor and room to expand the middle class. The idea that the US economy is currently ahead of the Chinese is laughable. It is only nominally based on the inflating USD.


13 posted on 01/10/2022 5:54:31 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Renfrew
I've seen it written that as a particular region/country becomes more affluent the number of births per female drops. One can obviously look at India,Senegal and Guatemala and see that the median number is something like seven...whereas in Germany,Japan and Canada it's fewer than two.
14 posted on 01/10/2022 5:56:43 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Renfrew

That’s BS. Most of the Chinese are living in the warm Southeast, leaving most of the rest of the country empty, even though the empty lands are more hospital than Siberia and Central Asia.


15 posted on 01/10/2022 5:58:52 AM PST by NorseViking
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Have you ever been to China? I have...several times. My first visit was in 1980,my most recent was in 2016. I haven't seen the whole country...not even close...but I have seen a fair portion of the southeast. Guangzhou,the huge city once known as Canton,is about 2 hours from Hong Kong. My first visit there (1980) showed a city with streets filled with buses,military vehicle and bicycles...at least 500,000 bikes at rush hour.It also was a city with drab,Soviet style buildings.In 2016 there were glass and steel skyscrapers and traffic jams of Hyundais,Toyotas and Buicks (yes,Buicks).

*However*...if you traveled 10 minutes south of those skyscrpers you found people living just as they did in the 1400s.

Unless I'm mistaken about 5% of China's population have a standard of living that approaches that of the American middle class...the rest are still basically coolies.

16 posted on 01/10/2022 6:08:22 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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Except that when you start to see how the played pieces you didn't care about connect together…

Our elected and unelected elites have not just been blind, they have been purblind. For the most part they have chosen not to see.

Why has it taken nearly 2 years to even utter in public discourse the belief that the virus came from the Wuhan lab? Why has the seizure of Hong Kong effectively gone down the memory hole? Why has the plight of 2 million Uighurs been taboo to mention in the NBA? Why are we not undertaking truly effective measures to protect Taiwan and the vital chips manufactured there?

We can ask these same kind of questions about our domestic policy. For example, why is it that it has been nearly criminal to assert fraud in the 2020 election? Why is it that no substantive hearing on the merits on that issue could be obtained? Why is it the fate of January 6 protesters is ignored as they languish in solitary confinement? Why have we abandoned due process in this country?

These things cannot happen unless we accept that no one is so blind as those who will not see. I fear that some sort of black Swan event must be required-as no doubt one of some kind or other will occur- in order to awaken us from our coma.


17 posted on 01/10/2022 6:11:32 AM PST by nathanbedford ( <i>Except that when you start to see how the played pieces you didn't care about connect together…<)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’ve been to China multiple times between the 1990s and just before Covid. The way China is organized, about half the population are living within 10 minutes of the skyscrapers indeed.
Based on PPP, a delivery guy in Harbin, which is far from the most opulent of all Chinese places, makes an equivalent of $36,000 in Chicago.
Just ten years ago there were hordes of Chinese wetbacks across the Russian border. Now they are mostly gone, meaning there are decent employment opportunities back home.


18 posted on 01/10/2022 6:19:55 AM PST by NorseViking
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Not sure what your point is. Yes, most of China’s pop is in the southeast, but north and west China still have a few hundred million people.

Siberia across the border has 30 million and falling.

The Sakhalin oil fields are 1400 miles from Beijing and 4000 from Moscow. As China’s power rapidly passes that of Russia, who in the long run do you think will control that oil?


19 posted on 01/10/2022 7:37:54 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: Gay State Conservative

Good points, but the issue we have to understand is why wealth leads to atheism.

India, Senegal and Guatemala are deeply religious countries. Germany, Japan and Canada are not.

It seems that once people have enough material comforts they feel they no longer need God. Religion collapses as does the traditional family.


20 posted on 01/10/2022 7:40:39 AM PST by Renfrew
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