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Russia Is Not the Great Rival; China Is
Townhall.com ^ | January 4, 2022 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 01/04/2022 3:56:25 AM PST by Kaslin

While all facts are true, not all facts are relevant.

And what are the relevant facts in this crisis where 100,000 Russian troops are now stationed along the Ukrainian border?

Fact one: There is not now and never has been a vital U.S. interest in Ukraine to justify risking a war with Russia.

History tells us that. Even as Ukraine was suffering in the Stalin-induced Holodomor, the terror-famine of 1932-33, President Franklin Roosevelt granted diplomatic recognition to the Bolshevik regime.

During four decades of Cold War, the U.S. never regarded Moscow's control of Ukraine as any threat to the USA.

resident Joe Biden was thus right to rule out military action in response to any Russian incursion or invasion of Ukraine.

Moreover, as it is declared U.S. policy not to retaliate militarily to an invasion of Ukraine, Biden should make it clear that Ukrainian membership in NATO is a closed question.

Not going to happen.

Ukraine is not going to be invited to join NATO and be given Article 5 U.S. war guarantees that are the primary benefit of membership.

Hence, with U.S. negotiations with Moscow over Ukraine impending, what is the state of play?

Russia is demanding that the U.S. give formal assurances that Ukraine and Georgia will never be admitted to NATO, and no nation bordering Russia will ever accept offensive NATO weapons that could imperil Russia's security.

If Moscow cannot get such assurances that Ukraine will never become a member of NATO, Russian President Vladimir Putin warns, Russia may invade and occupy Ukraine to neutralize that threat.

The U.S. position?

While we will not resist Russia militarily, the most severe sanctions in history will be imposed on Russia, possibly including cancellation of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.

Putin has lately issued a counterthreat.

If such severe sanctions are imposed on Russia, this will result in a "complete rupture of relations" and be a blunder "which our descendants will later appreciate as a huge one."

Not long ago, a total severing of relations was the prelude to war.

While Putin and Russia initiated this crisis with the deployment of 100,000 troops to Ukraine's borders, we should try to see this crisis through Putin's eyes.

The heart of Greater Russia as one ethnic, cultural and historic nation consists not only of Russia but also of Belarus and Ukraine.

Yet, consider the political condition of that core nation today.

Ukraine has broken from Moscow and seeks its future in the West, the EU and NATO.

Belarus, a nation of 10 million, just went through an election where only fraud guaranteed victory for its 67-year-old autocrat, Alexander Lukashenko, who has ruled Belarus for a quarter-century.

Though an ally of Putin, Lukashenko is not the future.

And Putin himself, while popular, has been in power for two decades and is bedeviled by rising democratic resistance in Russia.

Now the Americans -- who have, in a quarter-century, moved NATO across Germany into Eastern Europe and the Baltic states -- are planning to bring into an alliance established to contain Russia the former Soviet republics of Georgia and Ukraine.

Putin has to see himself as the ruler of a diminishing Russia, not a rising power.

Time is not on Russia's side or Putin's side.

His principal ally, China, has 10 times the population of Russia and an economy 10 times Putin's. Moreover, China harbors ancestral claims to Russian territory in the Far East, which, in 1969, caused a border clash between the two countries.

Putin has decided that the long retreat of Russian power must end, that the eastward march of a NATO alliance created to contain and resist Russia must end, and if this means risking war over Ukraine, so be it.

Putin may see this as a now-or-never moment to halt the decades-long attrition of Russian territorial and national power.

And the U.S.?

In the Cold War, President Dwight Eisenhower did not intervene militarily to save the Hungarian rebels who rose against Moscow in 1956. Nor did President John F. Kennedy act to stop the building of the Berlin Wall in 1961. Nor did President Lyndon B. Johnson intervene to prevent Moscow's crushing of the "Prague Spring" in 1968. Nor did President Ronald Reagan act when Solidarity was crushed in Poland in 1981.

Historically, those presidents who refused to use force in Central or Eastern Europe, to avoid a war with Russia where U.S. vital interests were not imperiled, were proven right.

Time was on America's side in the Cold War. And, with Russia, time is still on America's side.

Our great challenge in the 21st century is not Russia.

Indeed, in the long term, we want Russia on our side in the long struggle between the U.S. and the West, and Communist China.

What the U.S. should do in this Ukrainian crisis is to avoid a war with Russia, avoid an escalation, and leave our adversary with an honorable avenue of retreat. Again, with Russia, time is on our side.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; putinsbootlickers; russia; russiasucks

1 posted on 01/04/2022 3:56:25 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
IMO the only thing we have to fear from Russia is if she were to form some kind of deep,wide ranging alliance with the Chicoms. OTOH,the Chicoms are dangerous all by themselves. In my *firm* opinion the day will come when the civilized world will deeply regret the day when counties/regions like the US,the European Union,Japan,etc decided to open their ports to Chinese made goods.

And that day isn't too far off.

2 posted on 01/04/2022 4:46:51 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Kaslin
Russia Is Not the Great Rival; China Is.

Let's file this one under 'D' for 'Duh', but rather than 'rival', let's go with 'enemy', shall we?

3 posted on 01/04/2022 4:47:31 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Russia should be thanking us for the 45 years of peace on the continent. Putin should know we have no interest in protecting a corrupt country.


4 posted on 01/04/2022 4:57:24 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Kaslin

The huge mistake we as a country have made, is we have basically ceded our future to China.

Really.

We have made them powerful, strong, sold THOUSANDS of formerly American companies of all sizes 51% to them and moved them to China.

Both parties, GOP and democrats. Meanwhile we allowed the left to take over, and corrupt what was once the finest education system in the entire world, and turn it into a huge political operation dominated completely by the left.

While we make China stronger, and stronger, and stronger. With better education systems, the finest factories anywhere, and ZERO equal treatment of America.

We have been sold out to China, for thirty years.

Both parties.


5 posted on 01/04/2022 5:20:30 AM PST by cba123 (Tôi là người Mỹ. Hiện tôi đang ở Việt Nam)
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To: Gay State Conservative

After reading Tom Clancy’s book “The Bear and the Dragon” I came to think of the Russian’s as eventual potential allies.
It actually made sense that we would ally against a common enemy: The CCP.


6 posted on 01/04/2022 5:53:39 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963
I came to think of the Russian’s as eventual potential allies

LOL, like in Austin Powers....


7 posted on 01/04/2022 5:55:38 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: cba123
The huge mistake we as a country have made, is we have basically ceded our future to China.

True. Our computer chips and electronics are mostly made in China. Not to mention our prescription drugs. And they own much of our debt.

If we went to war with China, China needn't fire a shot. It need only stop shipping electronics and drugs to us, and dump all their U.S. Treasury notes. The result would be panic buying, riots, and economic collapse.

8 posted on 01/04/2022 6:14:04 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Kaslin
Funny how Buchanan completely ignore Putin's demand of complete NATO withdrawal from all former soviet eastern European countries :Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro and North Macedonia.
9 posted on 01/04/2022 6:15:30 AM PST by tlozo
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To: tlozo

*Funny how Buchanan completely ignored Putin’s demand*
Would Buchanan have supported Carter’s withdrawl of the neutron bomb deployment?

“The Bear and the Dragon” 1400 pages-gimme a break!

Buchanan’s Reform Party running-mate. Communist. Anyone remember her? That’s when I took him with a grain of salt. His book critical of our WW2 involvement was a bridge too far.


10 posted on 01/04/2022 7:05:27 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Kaslin

I thought with Pat Israel was the great rival???


11 posted on 01/04/2022 7:15:35 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Secularism is a fraud and a failure.)
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To: Kaslin

Russia is a pimp, but I didn’t know until this day that it was China all along.


12 posted on 01/04/2022 7:16:10 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bagster

Agreed. RE: China, “rival” is a weasel word.


13 posted on 01/04/2022 8:10:59 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Kaslin

“His principal ally, China, has 10 times the population of Russia and an economy 10 times Putin’s.”

Yet they’re still a regional power who can’t project military power beyond their little sphere of influence, and whose main focus will always be quelling internal dissent rather than imperialist expansion.

I say China is the sick man of Asia, not our primary rival.


14 posted on 01/04/2022 9:46:04 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Kaslin

“Indeed, in the long term, we want Russia on our side in the long struggle between the U.S. and the West, and Communist China.”

OMG!!! That’s going to trigger a bunch of people here.


15 posted on 01/04/2022 10:05:44 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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