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To: rktman

Garbage in garbage out. They rely far too heavily on those using commercial chargers for their charging instead of home charging.

Their cost per KWhour for home charging is 6 -10 times what mine is (I have a special rate of 3 cents per KWhour from 11PM to 7AM each night.) I have done a detailed analysis of my cost per 100 miles - Direct charging costs are 62 cents. Indirect costs over the 6 years I have had mine (52,000 miles) come to maybe another 20 Cents per hundred miles.

So let’s just say my costs are 85 cents per hundred miles. Far lower than the garbage they come up with here by focusing primarily on commercial, non-home charging. For example I don’t do any “deadhead” miles looking for charging.

I also compared my total time fueling my ICE cars and found I spend more physical time on those per month. Plugging in my car to my home charger takes about 5 seconds in/out, and is done about every 2.3 days for about 140 seconds per month. Filling up a couple of times a month in my gas cars takes roughly 15 minutes - almost 7.5 times more. Plus I have to stop to fuel them, rather than just go home.

Also, I don’t have to go in for oil changes ever, which I didn’t even see that time factored here. Also, I get free use of toll lanes, which isn’t factored as well.

Overall, pure garbage, taking the most expensive route possible to make it look far more expensive than it is.


20 posted on 01/03/2022 8:30:41 AM PST by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats, liberals. )
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To: Codeflier

Perhaps they should have limited the study to your circumstance. 😂🙌 Obviously a wide ranging overview. Glad it works for you.


23 posted on 01/03/2022 8:34:48 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Codeflier
Their cost per KWhour for home charging is 6 -10 times what mine is (I have a special rate of 3 cents per KWhour from 11PM to 7AM each night.) I have done a detailed analysis of my cost per 100 miles - Direct charging costs are 62 cents. Indirect costs over the 6 years I have had mine (52,000 miles) come to maybe another 20 Cents per hundred miles.

Just wait until millions are charging from home, you think those rates won't skyrocket?

25 posted on 01/03/2022 8:39:51 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Codeflier

—” They rely far too heavily on those using commercial chargers for their charging instead of home charging.”

Yes.
Here is a study with a different methodology, and a breakdown by 15 cities fuel costs.

https://archive.vn/AHI2d

“Over time, the average EV owner saves money because of lower fuel and maintenance, according to a 2020 Consumer Reports study. It calculated that a Mach-E was slightly more costly in the first five years of ownership than the RAV4, but slightly cheaper over the lifetime of the vehicles.
In our look at fuel only, the driver of a Mach-E saves 4 cents to 9 cents per mile.
That means any payoff on cheaper fuel for EV owners would come twice as quickly or twice as slowly depending on your local price to pump gas or plug in.”

That said states are now charging an EV road use tax, here in Illinois, $100/year started in 2019... And soon going up, up and away...
Removing and cost advantage for the EV.


37 posted on 01/03/2022 9:20:14 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Codeflier

Your data lines up with almost everyone else in the US that can fuel up at home. It is far less costly (outside the purchase price), and far more convenient. I get people don’t like BEV being forced on them or like to subsidize well off people to buy them. But that does not mean we should also “fake” data to make some non existent point. The left does that enough. To many people tie their existence up with their things and are not able to adapt to change. I cannot justify the high price of a BEV right now when I don’t drive enough to warrant that very high purchase price in fuel and maint. savings.


50 posted on 01/03/2022 10:00:17 AM PST by joedish
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