New NYC Mayor Eric Adams To Continue DeBolshevick's Private Biz Vax Mandate.

Citizen Free Press ^ | 12/31/21 | Eric Adams Press Conference

[catnipman]

“there is only one intelligent point of view to take: whatever results in the lower amount of sickness and death.”

would that “whatever” include universal mandated weekly testing and simply executing anyone testing positive and sending the bodies to the ovens? because THAT “whatever” would ultimately lower the amount of sickness and death ...

[packrat35]

I love it when you fascists out yourselves.

[packrat35]

Now we know you are a Fauci Fool and should NEVER be trusted again.

[Reno89519]

Probably easier for him to let it continue, but will he defend it and extend?

[firebrand]

Yes, there is a new rule for business owners. You can call that a mandate too. It’s not a mandate because there is still a choice for the business owner; it is a business regulation to protect the ordinary citizen. Us. I see a difference.

It’s sort of like insisting that legal brothels keep their employees disease-free. It in no way keeps free citizens from living their lives as they choose. You think brothels are bad for your health? Don’t go into one. Or say fire inspections that are mandatory. To protect us.

The Constitution deals with individuals, not business enterprises. We are still free to protect ourselves or not, as we choose.

[firebrand]

I was just kidding about the other person. This is a serious subject for me.

I am vaccinated but also follow all the suggestions about protecting others, so it’s highly unlikely that anyone has ever gotten the virus from me. Also, from what I have read, if a vaccinated person does get infected, they are infected but possibly infectious for a much shorter period of time, if at all.

Everyone still reporting today that the great majority of hospital patients are unvaccinated.

[Alberta's Child]

It’s not a mandate because there is still a choice for the business owner; it is a business regulation to protect the ordinary citizen. Us.

1. What "choice" does the business owner have -- to go out of business or relocate outside NYC? That's like saying an armed robbery isn't really robbery at all ... because the victim can always choose to just hand over his money and possessions "voluntarily."

2. How does a business regulation protect the ordinary citizen when it involves a mandate for a "vaccine" that has been clearly demonstrated to be completely ineffective?

The Constitution deals with individuals, not business enterprises.

Is this some kind of a joke? So a business establishment isn't protected from police searches and seizures without a warrant? I think you're on the wrong website, dude.

[firebrand]

I do not believe the vaccine to be ineffective. The figures I see in the news support my view.

As for businesses, they can’t do whatever they want. Capitalism is the best economic system but has to have regulations so it doesn’t interfere with the common good or the good of individuals. Letting infectious people into a pub is definitely in that category.

It would soon put the owner out of business anyway, so why not keep it safe for those who are not infectious? And keep the owner in business? The business owners I know have accepted the new rules with open arms.

[Alberta's Child]

I do not believe the vaccine to be ineffective. The figures I see in the news support my view.

1. The figures you see in the news are nothing more than propaganda. Can you cite any objective scientific study that would support this? I'll cite one simple fact that should dispel any notions about the effectiveness of these so-called "vaccines": There have been more deaths attributed to COVID after these vaccines were developed. That itself ought to at least cast a lot of doubt about the efficacy of the things before a government goes out and imposes these stupid mandates on businesses.

2. If these mandates are so important for ensuring public safety, then why doesn't the NYC government impose vaccine mandates in public places where the government actually has clear jurisdiction? I posted this earlier on this thread, but I haven't seen anyone address it. What the heck is the point of mandating vaccines for customers in a restaurant, while imposing no mandate for the customers while they are crammed into subway cars traveling to the restaurant?

As for businesses, they can’t do whatever they want. Capitalism is the best economic system but has to have regulations so it doesn’t interfere with the common good or the good of individuals. Letting infectious people into a pub is definitely in that category.

1. Nobody said businesses should be able to do whatever they want.

2. Clearly you don't understand either the NYC vaccine mandates or the vaccines themselves. Since it has been demonstrated without any doubt that these vaccines don't stop the transmission of COVID, a person carrying a vaccine card who is allowed entry into a restaurant can be infected with COVID and can spread it to other restaurant patrons.

[firebrand]

You believe your figures, I’ll believe mine. Each side of this argument accusing the other of having false figures has complicated things.

But I’ll go with my own beliefs and my own personal experience: my vaxxed friends, relatives, and acquaintances are all walking around healthy. My neighborhood, which is very densely populated but relatively wealthy and educated, has been one of the most vaccinated and also one of the most disease-free in the city.

[firebrand]

Also, notice that I said “infectious,” not “infected.” There’s a difference, and the vaccinated can be infected but are much less likely to be infectious than a unvaccinated infected person.

[BTerclinger]

"Also, from what I have read, if a vaccinated person does get infected, they are infected but possibly infectious for a much shorter period of time, if at all."

Never seen that. Have a source?

"Everyone still reporting today that the great majority of hospital patients are unvaccinated."

"Everyone" meaning the print, broacast & digital media that gets $30 billion/year in ad revenue from Pfizer et al. I'm SURE they aren't biased..../sarcasm off

"Everyone" else being the FDA and CDC honchos who go on to work for Pfizer et al. NO CHANCE FOR BIAS!
/sarcasm off

And that seems unlikely since SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF OMICRON INFECTED are VACCINATED.

BTW, have you looked yet at the Vaccine Adverse Events Reports? https://openvaers.com/

"VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data available for download at vaers.hhs.gov.

"The OpenVAERS Project allows browsing and searching of the reports without the need to compose an advanced search (more advanced searches can be done at medalerts.org or vaers.hhs.gov)."

[BTerclinger]

Well he hasn’t come out against the new Mann DA ‘s open announcement that he wont prosecute violent crime.

IMHO Adams is fraud. He already admitted he shares AOC’s political and economic goals, just not her “methods”. He’s been accused of extensive corruption in the past but never prosecuted. His mentors were Cuomo and Deblasio. He’s mentally unstable (listens to him speak, he’s delusional).

He got a woman killed last July 4th when he went on the news and begged people not to call the cops on people lighting fireworks too close to to homes, b/c “might start a riot” so “just go ask them to stop by yourself.”

So some woman goes to ask some ‘youts” to stop with the fireworks and they killed her.

1 year before that he supported legislation that would require gun permit applicants to hand over the face book and google search history.

He claimed his way of running the police wold be to emulate Dinkins. REMEMBER CROWN HEIGHTS?

The man is an idiot and will blow up NYC.