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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
In Ukraine, the Ternopil State Regional Council building has been decorated with a huge portrait of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera . He was the WWII leader of Ukrainian nationalists that heavily participated in the Holocaust killing 1000's of innocent Poles.


9 posted on 12/31/2021 4:28:39 AM PST by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: sockmonkey
First, the "Nazi Ukraine" thing is Russian propaganda. It is the Russians who are, by the way, sending in actual Neo-Nazis to fight the Ukrainians.

Ukrainian Jews are firmly on the side of Ukraine against the Russians and do not see Ukraine as a "Nazi" land, even though Ukraine is far from perfect:

"So is the Maidan movement "more a pogrom than a revolution" as Putin has described it, and what — or whom — should Ukraine’s Jewish community fear most? Despite the substantial presence of right wing nationalists on the Maidan during the revolution, many in Ukraine’s Jewish community resent being used by Putin in his propaganda war. (In the photo above, a poster in Sevastopol portrays Crimea’s vote to secede as a choice between Russian citizenship and living in a Nazi state.) On March 5, 21 leaders of Ukraine’s Jewish community signed an open letter to Putin excoriating the Russian president for using Ukraine’s Jewish community to bash the interim government — and insisting that the real threat to Ukraine’s Jews emanated from Russia: "We know that the political opposition consists of various groups, including some that are nationalistic. But even the most marginal of them do not demonstrate anti-Semitism or other forms of xenophobia. And we certainly know that our very few nationalists are well-controlled by civil society and the new Ukrainian government — which is more than can be said for the Russian neo-Nazis, who are encouraged by your security services."

"This letter to Putin brought forth an important point: namely, that much of the real anti-Semitism directed at Ukrainian Jews is actually coming from Russia.As David Fishman, a professor at the Jewish Theological Seminary and director of Project Judaica (JTS’s program in the former Soviet Union), explained: "When we look at what is going on the ground in Eastern Ukraine, we are seeing the revival of language of Russian imperial ideology from 100 years ago, which is both very nationalistic and very anti-Semitic, as well as anti-Ukrainian." Echoing what he wrote in an earlier article, Fishman noted that there has been a shift in how the Kremlin is using Jews in Ukraine. "Having failed to convince world public opinion that the new Ukrainian regime is anti-Semitic, we have recently had news programs on Russian state television asserting that leading Ukrainian political figures such as Tymoshenko and Yatseniuk are actually Jews," he continued. "Pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine and the Russian far-right inside Russia proper say that frequently, but it is the Russian government that sent such anti-Semitic extremists into Ukraine." Even the Russian media is actually scaremongering over "Jews" running Ukraine.

It goes on:

"In fact, Yaakov Dov Bleich, an American-born rabbi recognized as Chief Rabbi of Ukraine since 1990, says that the recent attacks on Jews and Jewish institutions have largely been staged Russian provocations designed to discredit pro-Ukrainian activists and Kiev’s interim government. Bleich is not a Pollyanna about the existence of anti-Semitism in Ukraine, and remains deeply concerned about Svoboda and Tyahnybok’s unapologetic use of anti-Semitic language — but he is much more concerned about Russia:

"All of the recent attacks on synagogues and Jews have taken place in the east where the Russian extremists are operating. Meanwhile, in the West, where there are supposedly ultra-nationalist extremists, all has been quiet. The Ukrainian Jewish Community is definitely more afraid of Putin and these pro-Russian hooligans than of Ukrainian anti-Semitism."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/05/07/why-jews-and-ukrainians-have-become-unlikely-allies/

BTW, I'm not sure why you'd bring this up, out of context, without any prompting. I would assume you're a Russkie sock puppet, to use your own name.

In Ukraine, the Ternopil State Regional Council building has been decorated with a huge portrait of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera .

As for Bandera, in WW2 Ukraine, people who fought against the communists didn't have much choice in friends. He is considered a hero or a villain depending on who you talk to, and was later imprisoned by the Nazis in a concentration camp. He was in jail when the killings of Poles took place, but he did have nasty things to say about them.

12 posted on 12/31/2021 4:49:05 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: sockmonkey
From the Times of Israel 2018: Ukrainian monument to Jewish Holocaust victims vandalized Swastika and SS symbol daubed on memorial in Ternopil, day after regional newspaper claimed Jews have too much power and only 800,000 were killed during Second World War
17 posted on 12/31/2021 5:14:09 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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