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Dear Conservatives, Elon Musk is Not Your Friend: He is a climate change radical who partners with the government at every turn to enrich himself
American Thinker ^ | 12/28/2021 | Bode Lang

Posted on 12/28/2021 8:33:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Bonemaker

In the long term engines will be hydrogen fueled or alcohols both of which drastically cut exhaust emissions while maintaining the density and power factors plus durability of the mixture controlled combustion process commonly referred to as the diesel engine.

https://www.cummins.com/news/releases/2021/07/13/cummins-begins-testing-hydrogen-fueled-internal-combustion-engine

https://www.clearflameengines.com/clearflame-advantage/

Alcohols can be made from grains, cellulose biomass, syngas via catalysts, synthetic biology via blue green algae,syngas via bacteria fermentation, directly from electricity via electrochemical reduction cells feed with co2 and water, also directly from electricity via GMO bactreia that literally eat electricity and poop alcohols when fed co2 and water.

The idea is to use surplus off peak power to run the electrofuel cells with air capture or seawater captured CO2 to store chemically that surplus energy. There are nights where in Texas there is 20,000 plus megawatts of surplus wind capacity the grid rate goes negative with consumers being paid to consume the surplus it happens fairly often in the winter months when the winds howl across West Texas at night and demand is low. AUDI has power to fuels already commercialized in Europe they make synthetic benzene,synthetic methane and hydrogen on commercial scales for the various AUDI products that then contract to use those fuels. Even the U.S. Navy plans to turn seawater into synthetic jet fuels. Synfuels are the future as even without climate change oil will run out eventually a lot soon than most people think when not if the world’s rising middle classes start to consume at Western standards of living. China added a BILLION to the middle class in the last decade alone that’s the equivalent to adding another America plus Europe in middle class consumers out planet simply doesn’t have the resources to support 4 billion let alone 6 or more at Western middle class standards of living. Humanity will absolutely need synthetic fuels and massive amounts of nuclear power. I have spent 20+ years in the energy sector am a petroleum geologist first, Hydro geo and engineering was added by later degrees. Humans will deplete our oil in 40 years or less with the current levels of middle classes adding a billion more and that number drops to this generation regardless of CO2 boogie man it’s a resource / reserves problem. Humans will need to turn coal to liquids and go after oil shale not shale oil this generation to keep up with demands of the global middle classes. Tar sands and heavy plus as well. Given that the global governments have set limits on CO2 those reserves likely will never be exploited for fuels but will still be needed for petrochemicals,plastics and fertilizers.


61 posted on 12/28/2021 10:18:54 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: SmokingJoe

Hydroelectric- already maxed out. Solar and wind too capital intensive and resource intensive and unreliable to be anything useful in replacing fossil and nuclear. Nuclear. Transport sector of the US economy uses about ten times the energy annually that all of the US nuclear plants produce. And do you think that lithium cobalt and neodymium have limitless supplies?

As an aside I went to Hawaii some years ago and happened to visit the southern tip of the big island. Ideal for wind generation very expensive oil fired base generation and lots of wind. There was a big wind farm there WITHOUT A SINGLE GENERATOR WORKING. Not cost effective to keep them running after the subsidy ran out


62 posted on 12/28/2021 10:20:33 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Rockingham

Rockets run on fossil fuels. How you gonnna reach orbit or Mars on electricity?


63 posted on 12/28/2021 10:22:37 AM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: qwerty1234

I’m sure you’ve accomplished far more than he has…


64 posted on 12/28/2021 10:26:01 AM PST by EEGator
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To: UNGN

We have had to rely on the Japanese and Russia to lift American astronauts into space because NASA sucks at it.

I wonder if people would like him if he just was invisible except for buying liberal District Attorneys, paying for daily riots in shithole democrat run cities or loaning governments boatloads of money with interest for his plans to be implemented as public policy?

Would you turn down money from the government to do the things that further your own goals and dreams?

Jealous bunch around here that uses blinders 24/7.


65 posted on 12/28/2021 10:28:51 AM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: Blueflag
He is an opportunist, less so a welfare queen.

And if he did not take advantage of all the laws, regulations and policies that benefit his business he'd be a fool.

66 posted on 12/28/2021 10:28:59 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Stingray51

Ethanol motor fuel was NEVER about energy independence because it takes 29% more fossil fuel emerge to make it than you get out of it. It was done to pay off ongoing campaign contributions from the ethanol special interests like Archer Daniels Midlands. Google David Pimental and ethanol for the details on the energy balance.


67 posted on 12/28/2021 10:32:02 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, I’ve been uneasy about him before all the recent laudings...


68 posted on 12/28/2021 10:35:13 AM PST by sauropod (Resident Bidet. A confused old man at the wrong bus stop.)
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To: from occupied ga
How long do you think earth’s reserves of lithium, cobalt, neodymium, etc will last? How long do you think earth’s supply of coal and natural gas will last since EVs are fueled mostly by coal and natural gas?

Thousands of years, once the massive UN/elitist depopulation effort is successful in reducing the Earth's population to half a billion.

69 posted on 12/28/2021 10:36:17 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: from occupied ga
Hydroelectric- already maxed out.

And still doing an excellent job of it.
For example, Hydropower regularly accounts for more than 95 per cent of total Norwegian power production, with the small remainder made up by thermal and, only recently, wind.

Solar and wind too capital intensive and resource intensive and unreliable to be anything useful in replacing fossil and nuclear.

No more capital intensive than some fossil fuel power plants which can cost a lot of money.
The “unreliable” aspect is getting dealt with.
Look up Solar City and other solar energy firms.

. Transport sector of the US economy uses about ten times the energy annually that all of the US nuclear plants produce. And do you think that lithium cobalt and neodymium have limitless supplies?

Um, when is the last time a new nuclear power plant was built in America? We stopped building them long ago.

Elon Musk: It's possible to make ‘extremely safe’ nuclear plants

70 posted on 12/28/2021 10:37:01 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Boogieman

Is he rudely outdoing you in charitable contributions? Hes prolly doing legal stuff every day that others dont think he should be doing. Maybe we should sic the IRS on him because he voluntarily pays more than 50% taxes on his personal income and doesnt really bitch about it.


71 posted on 12/28/2021 10:40:14 AM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Wind and solar are perfectly good sources of power, once we perfect cost effective ways to harvest them, without side effects (like dead birdies...).


72 posted on 12/28/2021 10:40:46 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: from occupied ga
And do you think that lithium cobalt and neodymium have limitless supplies?

Magnesium-ion batteries could serve as an alternative to lithium-ion batteries in electric cars and grid storage. Other alternatives are being developed as we speak.

73 posted on 12/28/2021 10:43:03 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Last I heard we don’t import power from Norway. It takes 20-25 years to go from deciding to build a nuclear to actually getting the power out. This electric vehicle mania would die on the vine if anyone actually looked at the details and the government didn’t distort the market. There will probably always be a niche market for it, but if you look at a free market ie. One not massively distorted by government subsidies to the ev industry at the expense of the rest of us then you would be unlikely to see more than a 5% market share.


74 posted on 12/28/2021 10:45:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: JimRed
All EV subsidies available to the first 200,000 Tesla's sold were available to GM, Ford etc too.
So how come Tesla has a market cap of over one trillion dollars and GM is stuck at under 100 billion dollars?
Not to mention GM took a massive bailout of $50 Billion in 2008 to save them from bankruptcy, on which the federal government lost $10 Billion.
75 posted on 12/28/2021 10:51:00 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SeekAndFind

Elon thinks the earth is going to be uninhabitable and mars will be where man has to live. Yeah….. mars will be more inhabitable than earth? He’s a brilliant idiot


76 posted on 12/28/2021 10:52:30 AM PST by kjam22
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To: wardaddy

I have gotten in some fights with people here who basically worship Elon and are willing to overlook anything. I admire, but do not worship him.

My niece’s husband gave up a very lucrative job at an oil refinery to go to work for Tesla. He did this because he was a great admirer of Elon Musk and wanted to work in one of his companies. It was a big mistake. He eventually had to quit and they are now living in a travel trailer next to his mother’s house while he is working any job that he can get.

My nephue-in-law is a bright guy and I am sure all will turn out well for him, but it was a lesson learned. Don’t change careers to follow one of the big shots that you think is great. It probably won’t turn out that well for you.

I


77 posted on 12/28/2021 10:56:44 AM PST by fireman15
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To: kjam22

What will you do if there is a massive nuclear war on earth?


78 posted on 12/28/2021 11:02:38 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SeekAndFind

Yiddish saying:

When you have a lot of money
you’re good looking
you’re smart
and you even sing well.


79 posted on 12/28/2021 11:05:43 AM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: SmokingJoe

Die.


80 posted on 12/28/2021 11:09:29 AM PST by kjam22
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