Or is that just something the EU-fags want us to believe?
Posted on 12/22/2021 2:30:57 AM PST by tlozo
Russian President Vladimir Putin has blamed the West for increasing tensions in Eastern Europe and suggested a “military-technical” response if his request for security guarantees is not met — while a media mouthpiece for the Kremlin warned that Russia will hold a gun to “America’s head” if Ukraine is allowed to join NATO.
In a speech Tuesday to Russian defense ministry officials, Putin said Moscow needs “long-term, legally binding guarantees” from the West that the US and NATO will not deploy missile systems in Ukraine, rather than “verbal assurances.”
Russia has massed as many as 175,000 troops as well as heavy military equipment on its western border with Ukraine, a move that many fear is a prelude to an invasion as early as next month.
Putin said NATO has continued to expand its footprint in Europe since the end of the Cold War despite assurances from the West that Moscow’s fears of encroachment are groundless...
Dmitry Kiselev, a Putin confidant and the head of state-controlled media outlet Rossiya Segodnya, took a more militant approach in an interview with the BBC.
He said if the West fails to deliver the security guarantees, Russia will “deploy missiles.”
“But this is your choice. We don’t want this,” Kiselev said in the interview published on Monday.
“If Ukraine ever joins NATO or if NATO develops military infrastructure there, we will hold a gun to America’s head. We have the military capability,” he said...
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
85 years was a long time ago. Was there any Russian threat between 1991-2007?
If you hint that the very fact of the Russian existence is a threat then the Russians are going to ignore you.
Was Cuba in its right to install the Soviet missiles in 1962?
Nobody is hinting that Russia’s mere existence is a threat. Russias perpetual imperialist designs on its neighbors is the threat. Again, the world isn’t watching US-Canadian relations with concern. Nobody in Belgium fears a German invasion despite their equally recent bad history.
Asking if another repressive communist regime was “in its right” to point missiles at the US is outside the question. The United States could easily turn Cuba into a parking lot and yet nobody fears that actually happening. Russia, on the other hand, is a perpetual bully. What did Georgia and Ukraine do to offend benevolent comrade Putin?
Russia abandoned its empire in 1991. NATO enlargement to its borders started in 1997, after NATO destroyed Yugoslavia.
Russia has only started to object in 2007 when the inclusion of its immediate neighbors started.
Was Russian occupation worse than Nazi occupation?
Were the Nazis preferred to the Communists in this region?
Certainly would help explain the rabid anti-Russian sentiment if its true.
Neither was preferred.
The communists were brutal to their European captors for decades.
That is why, nearly all the Warsaw Pact countries, prefer the West and US to their Russian bullies.
Present Russia imperialism pushes all of them to the West. It’s common sense.
Russia imploded in 1991. They didn’t abandon their imperialism at all, as their actions since have shown.
Today, however, nobody in Europe goes to bed fearing that German soldiers will come crashing over their borders in the wee hours. The same cannot be said about Russia.
The start of withdrawal predates implosion. Where are the examples? Please give examples of Russian imperialism.
Don’t play the liberal idiot fallacy, putting causes and effects upside down, while at it. I need examples from between 1991-2007 before NATO encroached on the Russian border.
Or is that just something the EU-fags want us to believe?
All you have to do is look at the actions of Hungary, Poland, etc....lol...pretty obvious but to the dense and the Pooty Poot boot lickers.
2017: Hungary's Orban and ally Putin cement closer ties
2019: Hungary's Orban defends Russia cooperation as Putin visits
2021: Hungary's Orban to meet Russian President Putin early next year
Meanwhile businesses in Poland are closing due to a war on natural gas, where the energy price spiked 21 times....
” Russia will hold a gun to “America’s head” if Ukraine is allowed to join NATO”
A rational response from Russia.
But no American President would be so stupid.
Right?
Hungary became a member of NATO in 1999, and a member of the EU in 2004. Hungary also has improved its often frosty neighborly relations by signing basic treaties with Romania, Slovakia, and Ukraine.
To pretend that Russia was withdrawn and silent until 2007, when “forced” into action by the west, is beyond false.
“Szijjártó emphasized that the United States is Hungary’s most important strategic partner and ally alongside the European Union and that bilateral relations have developed outstandingly in recent year “
Currently, about 1,700 American companies employ 106,000 people in Hungary. The United States is the largest investor in Hungary outside of Europe and its largest non-European export partner. Bilateral trade grew 2.3 percent in 2019 to USD 5.8 billion.
Bilateral cooperation in the field of energy has also intensified significantly in recent years, including the diversification of energy procurement and the establishment of a U.S. liquefied gas port on the Croatian island of Krk.
Hungary improved relations with Romania and Ukraine....On what planet?
“Russia is not a superpower. “
Call them what you want.
But they can deliver 1,000 nuke warheads upon US territory in 3 hours with 100% certainty.
And there is no force on earth that could prevent it.
So, now it just becomes a question of how important Ukraine is to each side.
https://hungarianinsider.com/hungary-takes-on-unprecedented-nato-role-7623/
“FM Szijjártó also says Hungary is on board with the new NATO 2030 strategic plan.”
Nobody wants a nuclear war. I am NOT saying we should move further east or take on Ukraine’s defense.. But we (US) are not threatening it.
I am saying that perceived weakness by the Russians will embolden Russia, as it clearly has thanks to Obama and our neglected nuclear deterrent.
Russia is making ultimatums to the US when THEY are the ones deploying 150K troops on Ukraine’s border threatening aggression..
The US SHOULDN”T send one soldier to Ukraine. Russia should NOT be making bold ultimatums threatening nuclear war combined with large troop movements.
Reckless belligerence between nuclear armed states is irresponsible.
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