How Allied Submarines Crippled Japan in WW2 (You Tube)

You Tube ^ | December 14, 2021 | Histoigraph

[Repeal The 17th]

35 submarines from World War II are still listed as “Missing”.
10 U.S.; 6 British; 13 Japanese; 2 German; and 4 others...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Missing_submarines_of_World_War_II

[Chauncey Gardiner]

Some bomber crews would like to have a word with you

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/life-and-death-in-bomber-command

[MercyFlush]

The Navy was running so short of Japanese targets even in 1944 that when the USS Archerfish sank the brand new Japanese fleet carrier Shinano the US Navy refused to believe the claimed kill. The skipper, Captain Joseph Enright, was even threatened with reprimand if he didn’t retract his claims of sinking a carrier.

It was only after the war when the US gained access to the Japanese Navy records that they realized that Enright had sunk the largest carrier that had ever put to sea up to that time.

[Vendome]

China needs raw material, coal and food. Block shipping and you hurt their ability to wage a shooting war.

And they need fuel, which they are unable to produce...

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

Uh, NO! We submariners accounted for just over 50% of all Japanese shipping and military vessels lost. Comparatively speaking, we did a lot more than our fair share.

Military bombings were relentless and, still, even after the Atomic bombs, Japan still refused to surrender.

[Intar]

I salute you for your service! My brother in law was a nuke tech on a boomer.

[Blueflag]

Polishing the old torpedo Sir?

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

The son of one of my fellow-submariners was a nuke tech on the now-decommissioned Thomas A. Edison. He died in 1998 from brain cancer with no previous history of cancer in his family.

The reason for his death has always made me wonder.

[walkingdead]

bkmrk

[Spktyr]

Psst - China can get their needed resources overland. They’re not an island.

[Intar]

Unless there was a reactor leak, his radiation exposure should have been pretty much background level.

[SunkenCiv]

I saw a comment on another YT vid the other day, allow me to (steal) paraphrase -- I think the main reason so many subs were sunk is the size of the skippers' and crews' ****s. The Cavalla's struggle to get back to the surface after and during a continual assault by Japanese depth charges is epic.

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In June 1944, one of the largest, most modern and most important ships in the Imperial Japanese Navy, Shōkaku, encountered a US submarine, Cavalla, out on its first patrol. The History Guy remembers a WWII confrontation in the Pacific Theater. It is history that deserves to be remembered.

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Shōkaku and Cavalla, a Confrontation of the WWII Pacific Theater | May 17, 2019 | The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

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The new skipper of the Wahoo was the formidable Dudley Morton--a broad-shouldered Kentucky Baptist with an aggressive philosophy on how submarine warfare should be waged. From: HELL BELOW: America Fights Back

Why the USS Wahoo and Its Skipper Were a Perfect Match | January 27, 2017 | Smithsonian Channel

[SunkenCiv]

[CIB-173RDABN]

Psst - China can get their needed resources overland. They’re not an island.

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From where and from whom?

First most of the population of China is on their East side so they would have a supply line that would be like California to New York.

Their BELT AND ROAD Initiative was designed just for this reason unfortunately for them they are Communist Thugs and don’t know how to play well with others and many nations are abandoning helping the Chinese build their road.

On a similar vein China has few friends (or allies) and are surrounded by potentially hostile nations.

India is working to organize the nations that surround China into mutual aid if China goes to war with any of them

So while true they have access via lad to their western border I can not see how (in a time of war) any supplies (assuming they could get any) would survive the trip.

Geography has not been kind to China.

[Rummyfan]

35 submarines from World War II are still listed as “Missing”.
10 U.S.; 6 British; 13 Japanese; 2 German; and 4 others...

Subs went out on patrol. With the state of communications during WW II, contact could be spotty. Sunk by enemy action or just simply disappeared into the deep. It was a very dangerous service to be in.

[shoff]

My dad was young when he joined the navy (17) so they kept him stateside. He was involved in the testing of torpedoes to find out why they were so awful.

[GreenLanternCorps]

If Japan hadn’t attacked Pearl Harbor we still would have gone to war when they attacked and invaded the Philippines, Guam, and Wake. Japan wanted the Southern Resource Area (Dutch East Indies and Malaya) and was not about to let the US sit aside the East flank of their supply lines.

[wgmalabama]

That sounds like an interesting story.

[oldvirginian]

“If Japan hadn’t attacked Pearl Harbor we still would have gone to war when they attacked and invaded the Philippines, Guam, and Wake.”

I was reading somewhere, and can’t find it again, that DC was ready to give up the Philippines to avoid war with Japan. Maybe just one of the “maybe we can...” conversations going on at the time.
But Japan attacked Pearl and that was it.

[lapsus calami]

 

 

The crazy thing is that they were designed, built and deployed to work on a theory. They never did any real-world live fire testing with them to amount to anything. Only twice that I recall and no more since that department had "budget concerns". That's like developing a rifle, firing only two rounds out of it before giving it to the troops to use. But there was a lot of politics inside and outside the Navy that worked to the delay fixing the situation. When the right people finally got access and tested the torpedoes like they should have been tested to begin with they were found to be the junkers the men out in the field had been saying that they were, and the fixes began at at long last.