>>If we are stupid enough to put them in place legally, I cannot fault capitalists for using them at all.
Then do you fault people who collect welfare? how about those that exaggerate disabilities to collect SSDI? How about the illegal immigrants that run across the border to get free stuff. They are all just doing stuff that the law allows too.
It is actually OK to like Musk and yet still find it disgusting that he feels a need to have his hand out for welfare at every turn. He is a smart guy, he has accomplish a lot - I’d respect him a lot more if he didn’t take money from taxpayers that he didn’t need, and clearly he is in a postion to not need subsidies anymore.
I understand fully what you said about perhaps respecting Musk more if he wasn’t dipping his hands into those subsidies. But I do view these things overall in a different light.
If you are not breaking the law when you are using the loophole or openly lying when obtaining welfare, how can you be culpable?
To fully expect people to be virtuous is a Leftist concept that our Founders would have (and did) completely rejected, which is why our Constitution was constructed in the way that it was.
It was constructed that way to take into account the innate flaws, shortcomings, and inevitable corruptions of Man. In the eyes of the founders, it was dangerous to assume that people would do the “right thing” so the Constitution was written to assume that people would do the wrong thing and try to prevent them from doing so.
We live (or at least, used to live) in a Constitutional Republic which is the rule of laws, not an oligarchy (which is what we live in now) which is a rule of a group of humans. Rules are rules. Implement good rules and people must follow or break them.
The FAR larger issue I have is not with people who use loopholes or are outright openly enabled due to laws legally passed by legislation, the MAJOR issue I have is with the people who legally pass that legislation that enables it.
John Adams said in his famous quote: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” and I believe in that.
People who take advantage bad welfare policy, loopholes in taxes or subsidies in industries may be smart even if they are not moral, but it is NOT ONLY the MORAL task of elected officials to not approve bad welfare legislation, close tax loopholes left open, or not vote for those subsidies, it is their damned job to vote in bad welfare legislation, close those ‘unfair’ loopholes or not vote for those subsidies, and I hold THEM in the highest contempt, and ultimately responsible when they don’t do so.
And quite often, they don’t do so because they are personally profiting in some way from them, via bought off votes if not money flowing directly into their own pockets.
"...but it is NOT ONLY the MORAL task of elected officials to not approve bad welfare legislation, close tax loopholes left open, or not vote for those subsidies, it is their damned job to NOT vote in bad welfare legislation, close those ‘unfair’ loopholes or not vote for those subsidies, and I hold THEM in the highest contempt, and ultimately responsible when they don’t do so..."
Heh, otherwise, they WOULD be doing their jobs in a most extraordinarily efficient fashion!
I’d respect him a lot more if he didn’t take money from taxpayers that he didn’t need, and clearly he is in a postion to not need subsidies anymore.
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Which two large corporations do you run? And who told you that taking advantage of legal funding is unnecessary for them - do you have access to their books to make that judgement? Or are you just fashionably spouting hate?
Actually Tesla does NOT get any subsidies on EV cars sold anymore. Haven't for about 2 years.
Those EV subsidies apply to first 200,000 EV'S sold and Tesla has long exceeded that number.
And Dementia Joe's new subsidies are only for car companies with unions like GM, Ford etc. Tesla has no unions.