Posted on 12/13/2021 2:26:49 AM PST by nickcarraway
A full Chinese invasion of Taiwan with troops landed and ports and airports seized would be very difficult to achieve due to problems China would have in landing and supplying troops, Taiwan's Defence Ministry said in its latest threat assessment.
Tensions between Taipei and Beijing, which claims the democratically-ruled island as its own territory, have risen in the past two years as China steps up military activities near Taiwan to pressure it to accept Chinese rule.
In a report to lawmakers, Taiwan's Defence Ministry said China's transport capacity was at present limited, it would not be able to land all its forces in one go, and would have to rely on "non-standard" roll-on, roll-off ships that would need to use port facilities and transport aircraft that would need airports.
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Make it harder. I wonder if the Chicom people support it.
Will it take them three weeks, or only two?
Yes, Churchill would fight Nazis, but when it came to communists, he wanted to become their butler, and was a total surrender monkey.
The only thing that could possibly stop them is the US Navy. If the CCP has made the decision to attack, sinking a carrier would be the escalatory event that starts WWW III. If we’re lucky one of two things will happen. They call their pal, Milley, who guarantees he will ole them right through the US defenses or (like 2020) the US sailors have a flu outbreak and have to be called home for treatment. Regardless, this is not a US strategic problem. I don’t know which would be more stupid getting into a shooting war here or in Ukraine. The traitors and dipshits running things in DC are very capable of getting us all killed as they blunder around the international scene.
I think the issue is, would the Chicoms be willing to suffer 500, 5,000 or 50,000 or more casualties to take the island. I don’t know how much resolve the Taiwanese have but if they planned a Iwo Jima or Okinawa type defense, knowing they could not stop China but could make it extremely costly...
Not at all. FDR and Truman trusted Stalin against his objections. And when Stalin broke his promise to allow the Balkans to choose democratically, he managed to get to Athens, in which there was fighting in the streets, and salvage Greece from Soviet orbit. He foresaw this at the beginning of the alliance with Stalin, and was repeatedly warning FDR and for that reason reluctant to commit to the Normandy invasion. He wanted the expeditionary forces already in North Africa to continue on into Italy and the Balkans, and vouchsafe them. They did take Italy, but because the bulk of the allied force was diverted to Normandy, they were unable to proceed further East. FDR and then Truman believed that Churchill just was interested in his own imperialist agenda, and foolishly trusted Stalin to keep his word. To be sure, Churchill was a die-hard imperialist and royalist, but he was also right about Stalin. When a war-weary England voted him out, that sealed the fate of Eastern Europe behind the “iron curtain”.
At any rate, the question is Taiwan, which has an island that they must defend at all costs. They’re a mercantile nation that will have to learn how to fight. Britain was always a warrior nation. It seems the putative contest is very lop-sided, and I doubt they will be able to manage it alone. And I don’t think America should put boots on the ground. This has proxy war written all over it. The most likely military allies are Australia, Japan and South Korea, possibly India, too. America should crank out supplies and provide good intelligence, and that’s it.
It most definitely is a US strategic problem, and therefore, the US should not directly engage with China militarily. It should—starting yesterday!—start cranking out chips, military hardware and gasoline. But it hasn’t and it won’t. Foe Jiden is a Chicom asset imho. I pray that when America does fully awaken, it won’t be too late.
It is not about the number of casualties.
China wants the robust manufacturing capability of Taiwan.
Would they blow the country to smithereens to seize it?
There would be no way to disguise a water invasion by China.
In my opinion, China would lose the greatest invasion battle since the destruction of the Spanish Armada by England in 1588.
Spain, at that time, was the most feared adversary on Earth.
They developed and launched a massive navy to seize England.
We should never forget, if China lost such a historic battle, they would be publicly humiliated in a way no Asian leadership could survive.
Losing face before the world by such a defeat would permanently taint the country’s image beyond measure.
The big 10% guy will give CCP Xi the all clear go ahead, (covered by our communist press).
Why is a part of China that had been part of China for thousands of years worth risking 100+ million dead Americans? Of course, you obviously have drawn another red line on the Russian/Ukraine border (easily as “strategic” for us as Taiwan). I would very much like to see your plans for the US to fight two potential World Wars simultaneously as we stupidly attack the Russians for moving on Ukraine (another area accepted as in the Russian sphere of influence for hundreds of years). You must suffer terrible guilt anxiety over that Monroe Doctrine. Ok for the US to claim exclusive dominance over two continents but not OK for China to reclaim its Chinese possession? How is the loss Taiwan a strategic problem for the US? When China takes Taiwan, we will have lost no bases, the strategic situation will be the same other than China trying to deal with its Taiwanese internal strife.
” I wonder if the Chicom people support it.”
The reason China has been provoking their neighbors is it plays well at home when they say India attacked them, Vietnam fired on a “fishing” boat and the hated Japan issued an unprovoked threat. The Chinese people on the whole have very limited access to anything that is not propaganda intended to create the view that China is hemmed in by violent, exploitive monsters who want to eat their one and only child. Yes, hundreds of thousands of Chinese students have studied overseas. They probably know the truth, but to post something online about it is to draw in the police, who, by the way, have mobile execution vans. (The vans are a subject in and of themselves.)
The Chinese public is being groomed to accept the privations of war so that the CCP can remain in power. That’s because until now the party’s legitimacy was, the party had improved things. Things are no longer improved. The citizens have seen prosperity and now they see it slipping away and the CCP wants them to believe that was done by America and the evil neighbors and not the CCP.
AS we’ve seen here with the vaccine, even reasonable people will believe propaganda that leads them to a shortened lifespan.
A better question might be how many Formosans would oppose it (invasion by PRC).
“ The only thing that could possibly stop them is the US Navy. ”
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It depends on how real the Chinese hypersonic missile threat is. If it’s what the Chinese claim it to be then our carriers would be rendered obsolete and would not be able to enter the theater of war. I’m guessing that’s be big unknown…
Churchill understood the danger of Stalin, and he was the one who had to admit to his nation that they had failed in achieving the goal they set in 1939 when going to war (the liberation of Poland).
The allies were unable to get through Italy due to Kesselring’s defenses (casualties were too high); when the war ended Germany still held the far north. The Normandy invasion was necessary to keep Stalin in the war; once the Axis had been cleared from the USSR there was little incentive for him to continue sustaining their high losses. In the end, he accepted Eastern Europe as payment for his troubles - and the allies agreed to it. Greece was abandoned by the Soviets as part of that agreement, and stood by while Britain aided the normals there in defeating the communists.
Unfortunately for Ukraine, they don’t have Western allies - and they angered many in the West when they sold military hardware to anyone and everyone when they first attained independence solely to raise foreign cash reserves. Unlike many of the other former Soviet republics and Warsaw Pact satellites, they didn’t want to introduce austerity measures to adjust their economy to market capitalism - so they just sold a bunch of conventional weapons to make up the shortfall (for the short term).
Taiwan falls in 24-48 hours from the first parachute.
I don’t believe that they have the fortitude.
You seem to forget the seriousness of that potential situation. If China is about to be trumped by a couple of US carrier groups, what are they capable of? Even scarier is what the traitors and dipsh!ts in DC are capable of. Never doubt the Chinese capability to obliterate a carrier group with nuclear weapons. That’s the point. Once a shooting war starts the inexorable escalatory process begins. Ever read One Second After? Once it starts, anything is on the table, including my eight grandchildren.
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