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Trump Knocked the Door Down; Let Someone Else Walk Through It
Townhall.com ^ | December 12, 2021 | Michael Brown

Posted on 12/12/2021 3:19:03 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: mac_truck

Ya. They would not succeed against DeSantis

Right


141 posted on 12/12/2021 11:45:11 AM PST by stanne
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To: StAnDeliver

What a fake little pansy this Michael Brown is. Thanks for the quotes.


142 posted on 12/12/2021 11:46:39 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: stanne

Which is why we need someone who can win a large majority so these agencies can be taken apart.


143 posted on 12/12/2021 11:47:03 AM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

Sigh. You believe trump didn’t get a large majority in 2020? Or that DeSantis will not be torn apart by all those who took trump apart?

Yore wasting my time


144 posted on 12/12/2021 11:56:07 AM PST by stanne
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To: snoringbear

This writer says he voted for Trump twice. I’d say that makes him anything but a Trump hater.

I agree with you completely. Trump’s time has passed. He’d be too old in 2024, anyway. If Biden lasts that long, Americans will decide they don’t want another old codger in the White House. And Trump wouldn’t be facing Biden. Biden will be gone. The Democrats will make sure of that if the 2022 elections are a bloodbath. Trump would be up against someone else.

We need a different face in 2024; someone with Trump’s guts and approach to government but without Trump’s baggage and his pathological fixation on anything he perceives to be a personal insult. It hampered his presidency. It drew attention away from his accomplishments and made it easy for Democrats and the media to attack him as nuts.

I’m tired of Trump and I voted for him twice. I won’t again.


145 posted on 12/12/2021 11:59:33 AM PST by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
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To: stanne

I believe Trump got a majority. I also believe that DeSantis will get ripped apart. I also believe he will have due it better.


146 posted on 12/12/2021 12:00:03 PM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: stanne

I believe Trump got a majority. I also believe that DeSantis will get ripped apart. I also believe he will have due it better.


147 posted on 12/12/2021 12:00:08 PM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

No idea


148 posted on 12/12/2021 12:07:38 PM PST by stanne
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To: BobL

“It’s the “Walk on Glass” analogy that is Trump’s strongest point”

That *is* the perfect analogy. Trump is a *leader* of his people. DeSantis is not a leader. Not in the way Trump is, and will never be. He has some of his people here on FR doing his bidding to make it look like he has grassroots support, but outside of that group he has no support. A poll came out a couple of days back where he scored even less than Pence. And Pence is despised by the Trump base ! This is not a knock on DeSantis. He is an able governor but no way will he ever ever be a replacement for Trump. A leader like Trump comes along once or twice in a century.


149 posted on 12/12/2021 12:24:27 PM PST by libh8er
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To: Caipirabob

“As far as I’m concerned, President Trump can do whatever he’d like in 2024, I will back him 100% either way.”

They want us to abide the election theft in 2020, by legitimizing the notion that Trump lost, and should therefore not run again.

He will be the only president in my lifetime to run and win three times.

They fear this beyond all imagination.


150 posted on 12/12/2021 12:34:55 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: mac_truck; All
Your post reminds me another great thing about a 2024 DeSantis candidacy is that he won’t be carrying all that polarizing ‘stolen election’ baggage with him into the race.

People ranting about "polarization" don't have a single clue what they're talking about. Everything is polarized. The left has polarized the color of your skin and whether or not you can have commercials with white people in it. The left has polarized going out shopping, the logos on store items, medicine, what you watch on TV, what you think and do.

What we are concerned about is getting enough normal people to wake up to the lies and crimes committed by the left in numbers sufficient to overcome voter fraud. Hell, polarization is probably very good for this purpose, because it forces people to think, act and pick sides. And I can guarantee you: normal people aren't going to be voting against Trump because they're oh so convinced that our election system is incorruptible.

Whatever the case, all of this is irrelevant. You can bitch and moan about Trump, but he WILL be the candidate in 2024 if he wants it. He leads DeSantis by almost 50 points. Trump is beloved, and any "Republican" not voting for Trump because of BS you cite were never going to be voting for him anyway since they WANT open borders and the status quo.

151 posted on 12/12/2021 12:51:32 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: libh8er

I don’t believe these people are DeSantis bots or some such thing. DeSantis will not be running against Donald Trump and has no plans to.

The people pushing DeSantis are a bunch of weaklings and idiots who are against Trump and are hoping to lure us into some other candidate dishonestly. If Trump were to miraculously lose all support because of their dumb opinion pieces, probably they’d turn on DeSantis next and support Pence or more likely Rubio or even Jeb Bush if he popped out again. Then they’d be writing Never DeSantis articles—not that DeSantis is anywhere near as good a candidate as Trump, not even close! But they’d be against the best candidate in a field without Trump in favor of a sad sack like Jeb.


152 posted on 12/12/2021 12:54:44 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: PA Presbyterian
his pathological fixation on anything he perceives to be a personal insult. It hampered his presidency. It drew attention away from his accomplishments and made it easy for Democrats and the media to attack him as nuts.

First, Trump WILL be the candidate whether you like it or not. He leads by 50% his closest competitor. Biden will be the candidate too unless they actually murder him--and there is no candidate more likable than Biden. They're all obnoxious and in many ways were worse than Biden. Obviously most normal people aren't concerned about purely superficial concerns like how Trump responded to his detractors. Some pearl clutchers like yourself may hate that Trump never let an insult slide, but the vast majority of normal people do not.

Plus, Trump's character is absolutely unique. What candidate do you have in mind that can capture the imagination of an entire country? You do not understand politics or what Trump's "guts" and strong points are if you think anyone else can hold a candle to him.

Trump is our leader. And you will vote for him too even if, today, you clutch your pearls and declare you'll never vote for him again because of some made up BS like "he's too old!" or "he's too mean!".

153 posted on 12/12/2021 12:59:46 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You can bitch and moan about Trump, but he WILL be the candidate in 2024 if he wants it

Meh...Trump doesn't have a lock on the nomination, whether he wants it or not.

DeSantis may defer running against him, but Trump will face a strong challenger...maybe several.

154 posted on 12/12/2021 2:04:24 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck
Meh...Trump doesn't have a lock on the nomination, whether he wants it or not.

Based on what reasoning? I've seen at least 3 polls going back months all showing the same exact thing: Trump with a massive lead over all other candidates, including DeSantis, who scores in the lower single digits.

DeSantis may defer running against him, but Trump will face a strong challenger...maybe several.

Based, again, on what? Who? Neither Ted Cruz nor DeSantis nor any conservative candidate will ever face off against Trump. Not only do they not want to, but if they were so stupid and traitorous as to try, they would kill themselves politically. So, again, based on what? Where are you getting your conclusions? What is your reasoning?

155 posted on 12/12/2021 2:12:19 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: nathanbedford

Your response is well-reasoned and appreciated.


156 posted on 12/12/2021 3:54:42 PM PST by Migraine
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To: Caipirabob

Yep, I feel.the same he has served, but of course I would love to see him driving them nuts..


157 posted on 12/12/2021 4:04:39 PM PST by aces (and )
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To: Kaslin
it will be best in 2024 for another conservative leader with backbone and conviction to take the lead. Trump simply brings too much collateral damage with him (and, I remind you, I voted for him in 2016 and 2020). <<<<

I stopped reading right there!.... lol...Who is this other conservative “leader” with backbone and conviction to take his place???? .... anyone with an (R) behind their name that has been in POLITICS for years? ...Oh yeah!...We need someone with “experience” to compromise what Trump opened the door for...lets get back to being the party of “Go along to get along” ...IMHO..Trump is the ONLY one that can fix the decline of this Country for the “FUTURE”....

158 posted on 12/12/2021 5:05:51 PM PST by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: Kaslin; newfreep; HighSierra5; Redleg Duke; stanne; McGruff; Migraine
Michael Brown wrote: Put another way, loyalty to Trump mattered more than the strength of Israel’s relationship with America.

It's like Michael Brown thinks that Joek Bidet is running the country, instead of The JoeLitburo.

The JoeLitburo HATES Israel, and kissing the ring of their Senile Puppet won't dissuade them a bit from stabbing Israel in the back every chance they get.

Brown is a Clown. clown face  clown face  clown face

159 posted on 12/12/2021 7:03:01 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I've seen at least 3 polls going back months all showing the same exact thing: Trump with a massive lead over all other candidates, including DeSantis, who scores in the lower single digits.

Most reasonable people would agree that polls taken three years before an election are kinda meaningless, but nonetheless DeSantis holds his own in them. He'd be a top tier contender if he got in.

Neither Ted Cruz nor DeSantis nor any conservative candidate will ever face off against Trump.

You're conveniently forgetting Ted Cruz already did so and lived to tell about it.

Opposing Trump is not necessarily a career ending move by a Republican politician, and for someone like Pence or Christie, already near the end of their careers, (or Liz Cheney) that may not matter.

160 posted on 12/13/2021 5:38:08 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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