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To: volunbeer
... it is pretty obvious that Trump could have won and done the same things with a little softer image.

So it matters not at all that President Trump did win the election while we watched Democrat cheating, especially in Georgia, unlawfully take it away.

You remind me of the first time I heard Yertle call for comity.   He always attempts to change the narrative and obfuscate issues too.

19 posted on 12/10/2021 12:07:01 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

I have given up having this discussion so we can agree to disagree despite the fact that you are reflexively assigning a motive I do not have.

Trump is Trump. I accept it and supported him vigorously. With that being said, any objective person could see that he could have played the image game and made it more difficult for the media to define him for the squishes.

Would it have made a difference? I don’t know. However, there are some pretty smart and fair pollsters that can make a good case that if he had only learned to bite his lip and fake it like Clinton we would not be having this conversation even with the cheating.

You can choose to believe what you wish to believe. There are parts of my job I really enjoy (like Trump did). There are parts of my job I really hate and dread. I clench my jaw and try to do the crap I don’t enjoy so I can do the parts I enjoy. Trump never spent time or gave a thought to playing the game (which I hate just as much as you) but I think in hindsight he will admit the truth of what I wrote above. He is about authentic as it gets and has no tolerance for BS, but I am not focused on his legacy, I am focused on the world I leave to my children and grandchildren and it would be far better if Trump had faked the politician shtick a little bit more or maybe just pulled a few punches here and there.

Politicians are liars and cheats, but they are not dumb. When Carville told Clinton how to act it worked. That stupid fake lip biting and all that “I feel your pain” bullcrap worked. I think many of us admire Trump because he was not a politician but it made it that much easier for the left and media to peel off the spineless jellyfish who surround us all. That is an absolute political fact.

If it is not any clearer than that or we cannot have an objective and reasoned discussion about it that is okay. I wish we did not live in a fake and superficial world, but we do. Would it have overcome the shenanigans in the election? Good pollsters have clearly illustrated it would.... even just 10% more among suburban women and he is in his second term now.

It is fine if you do not agree. Merry Christmas and I wish you all the best.


27 posted on 12/10/2021 12:42:26 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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