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mRNA vaccines: Why is the biology of retroposition ignored?
Researchgate ^ | Tomislav Domazet-Lošo

Posted on 12/08/2021 2:56:03 PM PST by Triple

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To: Triple

“ 12,000 vaccine deaths, according to Pfizer, in the first few months isn’t enough to concern you? (From just the Pfizer mRNA)”
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Nope.

760,000 plus dead from Covid in almost 2 years isn’t enough to concern you?


61 posted on 12/08/2021 4:25:57 PM PST by David Chase
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To: David Chase

Your reply has no apparent connection to the post that you are allegedly replying to.


62 posted on 12/08/2021 4:28:10 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Arcadian Empire

Oh. Just skip it then.


63 posted on 12/08/2021 4:30:38 PM PST by David Chase
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To: entropy12

“ I had the jabbs 10+ months ago. My energy levels and libido are enhanced, so I welcome the genetic changes”

But you could drop dead tomorrow from the jab.

My libido and energy are just fine. I did NOT get the shot.


64 posted on 12/08/2021 4:32:33 PM PST by icclearly
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To: dblshot

yes just like kid from deliverance


65 posted on 12/08/2021 4:43:19 PM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: entropy12

so no long term effects?


66 posted on 12/08/2021 4:45:40 PM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Renfrew

20 years of testing but no approval?


67 posted on 12/08/2021 4:46:14 PM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: House Atreides
He’s simply saying further and continual testing should be undertaken. And no right-thinking person could say that is unreasonable.

Yes, exactly, and the implication is that a global mass-vaccination program without having a conclusive answer would be GROSSLY IRRESPONSIBLE. The "vaccine" recipients are being experimented on.
68 posted on 12/08/2021 4:47:06 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Rebelbase

Soon enough, purebloods will be hunted for their braaaaiiiiiinnnnns.


69 posted on 12/08/2021 4:48:57 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: David Chase

I think your Covid caused death is much less. (Than that with Covid number)

But , every single death is concerning.

Therapeutics should not have been withheld. Fauci new chloroquine was effective against coronavirus in 2005. He published on it.

Further, doctors should,” first, do no harm”

These experimental gene therapy vaccines are doing harm. And Pfizer tried to withhold that information.

Are you truly a monster that cares not about the many vaccine caused deaths?


70 posted on 12/08/2021 5:02:29 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: fr_freak

That is a Bingo!


71 posted on 12/08/2021 5:03:18 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Renfrew

None of those tests found any genomic issues.
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How do we know that?

Researchers have already admitted they trashed results of MMR that showed autism in young African-American males.

CDC & FDA have already exhibited that they are captured agencies.

Insiders are forced to resign after signing NDAs and if they persist, they are destroyed.

When independent studies are done and published, they are withdrawn, suppressed and the authors cancelled.

So, where are these trustworthy tests?

Meanwhile, gatherings and venues of the fully-vaxxed (version 1.3), produce *cases* determined by faulty PCR tests. *Fully-vaxxed* are reset to *unvaxxed* at bureaucratic whim. Governmental units ignore court orders.

No one is allowed to either watch the watchers or make public reports.

How can anyone rely on any public entity when they are revolving doors between the developers and the so-called watchdogs? The professional journals have demonstrated bias and group think.

The manufacturers pay their fines and continue on. The watchdog agencies force a few resignations and clamp down harder on those remaining.

On what do you base your faith in either the inoculations or the published studies?


72 posted on 12/08/2021 5:13:11 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Thalidomide??? (sp)
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Or DES which impacted the next generation.


73 posted on 12/08/2021 5:17:50 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Then where do mutations - leading to new variants - come from? How are the “apostates” able to survive, replicate, flourish, and sometimes even dominate.
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The inoculated are only *immune* to Covid 19 1.0.

Coronaviruses are highly mutable. Evolutionary pressure forces those mutations.

Also, as I understand it, certain key DNA repair genes are inactivated.

I’m trusting one of the more scientifically literate FReepers to post the appropriate (& very recent) paper, as I did not bookmark it.


74 posted on 12/08/2021 5:26:08 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

... if you actually believe that happens when foreign mRNA enters the body, and can somehow change the genetic code of every single cell in the body.
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So, how did various ancient viruses become integrated into human DNA. That is documented genomically.


75 posted on 12/08/2021 5:31:13 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: David Chase

... vaccinated the bodies would start piling up in 3 months, then it was 6 months, then during this Fall, now just to make sure all bases are covered, it’s years……from 1 to 30 years, the number varies depending on the Blog or Twitter source.
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20k dead according to VAERS. Another 20k (maybe more, I don’t check regularly) dead according to EUDRA. Similar numbers in the UK Yellow Card reports.

All these reports are 1%-10% of the reality, according to a Harvard study from before Covid.

Numerous countries are banning the vaccines in those under 30.

Vietnam had 120 children injured immediately, with enough deaths to prompt them to ban it.

Not everyone dies right away. Many are overtly injured. Others are just not feeling all that well, so far. The effects of the inoculations are cumulative. 3-4 shots, so far and another 3 soon to be forced for the variant du jour.

People do fall over dead immediately. Others, like the athletes seen on video during their performances, fall over on the field. Weakened people who feel ill, stay home and some die there.

Even the ERs have admission profiles that send people presenting with reactions home, where many of them pass away.

MDs are told to not recognize sequelae as vaccine-induced. They are employees and they do what the boss demands.

And the definition of *fully-vaccinated* not only ignores the 1st 2 weeks post jab, it is obviated as soon as a new *variant* is announced.

The die-off is slow and has plausible deniability.


76 posted on 12/08/2021 5:47:30 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Triple

... a monster that cares not about the many vaccine caused deaths?

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The victims of this current exercise in mass formation are just that: victims. No different than all the good Germans who fell under the mass psychosis of the 1930s.

The monsters are those colluding to implement and continue this horror.

I concur with the rest of your post.


77 posted on 12/08/2021 5:57:13 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: reformedliberal
“All these reports are 1%-10% of the reality, according to a Harvard study from before Covid.” ——————————————————————————————————————- Yes, before Covid-19 reports of adverse reactions to all vaccines were very low but the Harvard Study showed only about 10% of adverse reactions were being reported…….OF VACCINES THAT ARE NOT COVID VACCINES. Chicken Pox, Measles, Mumps, Polio, Tetanus, etc. The larger than life reporting of vaccine side effects in different levels began when the Anti-Covid vaccine derangement began. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ “Vietnam had 120 children injured immediately, with enough deaths to prompt them to ban it.” ————————————————————————————————————————— https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20211203/vietnam-receives-500000-covid19-vaccine-doses-donated-by-argentina/64527.html ============================================================ Not only is that story false, but Vietnam doesn’t even use a mRNA vaccine. They use AstraZeneca. The rest of your rant, you have no proof of. I know many medical professions still working in the field (I’m retired) and none are involved in your fantasy conspiracy. For your own sanity, you ditch reading the anti-vaccine blogs and Twitter post. Start with the Blog that lied to you about Vietnam.

78 posted on 12/08/2021 6:20:44 PM PST by David Chase
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To: Triple

“ Are you truly a monster that cares not about the many vaccine caused deaths?”
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Are you truly in that deep into believing everything and anything Blogs that rely on clicks to get paid and will say any number of things to get you to return?

Are you truly that gullible?

Fauci had nothing to do with withholding HCQ…….some Governors banned it’s use for Covid for a while.

But I understand you need a bad guy, a name, a real person to give all credit to of all evil you perceive. It’s part of the conspiracy gig.

Therapeutics are not being withheld.
Let me rephrase that, Proper Effective Therapeutics are not being withheld.
Far better treatments than Ivermectin and HCQ.
But now those are being demonized by the same Blogs profiting from your horror and fear of vaccines.

It’s quite sad actually.


79 posted on 12/08/2021 6:37:25 PM PST by David Chase
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To: Triple

“I conclude that is unfounded to a priori assume that mRNA-based therapeutics do not impact genomes, and that the route to genome integration of vaccine mRNAs via endogenous L1 retroelements is easily conceivable.”

Yes I read the abstract. And I agree with the authors that mRNA vaccines may be reversed transcribed into DNA. My point is this is theoretically possible, both from biological theory and from in silico studies.

At this point we don’t know if it occurs in vivo.


80 posted on 12/08/2021 6:58:25 PM PST by packagingguy
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