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To: ThunderSleeps
When you calculate the percentage of people who have immunity - either surviving covid or having a vax, we are somewhere in the range of 70% to 88% of the population. By all nominal estimates from othe infectious diseases we should be on the cusp or over the edge, falling into “herd immunity” and the pandemic should be dying off to endemic levels. If not, then they’re lying, and or they’re lying about the vaxes. Probably both.

Let's look at the numbers in terms of deaths involving COVID (as reported to the National Center for Health Statistics by the individual state health departments, drawing on official death certifications):

Nationwide, there were 29,881 COVID deaths in August 2020 (at which time, of course, no one in the country had yet been vaccinated). In August 2021 (at which time millions of Americans had been vaccinated), there were 48,003 COVID deaths (i.e., an increase of 61%).

In (pre-vax) September 2020, the country incurred 19,139 COVID deaths. In (post-vax) September 2021, the country incurred 61,670 COVID deaths (i.e., an increase of 222%).

In (pre-vax) October 2020, the data show that there were 24,910 COVID deaths in the U.S. For (post-vax) October 2021 (for which all the data have not been fully compiled), the figure is 40,245 COVID deaths (i.e., an increase of 62%).

We are, unfortunately, some weeks away from having anything like complete data for November 2021, so it is not possible to determine at the present time whether this trend of increased COVID deaths will continue as we head into winter, compared to the winter of (pre-vax) 2020. What we've witnessed in recent months, however, is that COVID deaths are up, not down, compared to the same months last year, when no one was vaxxed.

Note, too, that this apparent phenomenon is occurring even though many thousands of the most vulnerable in our population sadly passed in (pre-vax) 2020, while many thousands more contracted COVID, recovered, and thereby should have obtained immunity from subsequent infection. And yet starting this past summer, at which time millions of Americans are said to be "fully vaccinated," COVID deaths are on the increase, and significantly so. Why is that?

14 posted on 12/05/2021 7:15:03 AM PST by DSH
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To: DSH
Except that the fact of increasing COVID numbers in the face of a high vaccination rates is just proof that more needs to be done, and that the vaccination rate needs to be brought to 100%, with dissenters and resistors violently removed from society, and with mandatory yearly semi-annually quarterly monthly weekly daily boosters being administered. That's the only way to get ahead of the rising numbers!
/liberals and communists (but, I repeat myself)
16 posted on 12/05/2021 8:20:27 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: DSH
Those are disturbing numbers. The pro-vax types would probably try to blame the increased covid deaths on several factors:

The delta variant

The un-vaccinated

Riskier behaviors due to people having a false sense of security

All of these excuses work for the pro-vax, pro-control, pro-lockdown types:

"The big bad XYZ variant is so bad, we need to take additional measures. Everyone must be vaxxed and boosted. We must maintain lockdowns..."

"It is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. We must force those final reluctant people into our cult."

"Breakthrough cases are happening because people are engaging in riskier behaviors. No vaccine is 100% effective, therefore we need to (re)institute lockdowns."


This whole thing is like a never-ending nightmare, or wet-dream for the left.

20 posted on 12/05/2021 8:50:02 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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