Posted on 12/01/2021 3:44:06 PM PST by naturalman1975
Thanks for the update...
You seem to be confirming that things are, only, “almost” as bad as has been described on Freeperdom...
Actually, sounds pretty much the same as the tyranny we live under here... Chains are chains wherever you are...
I guess the biggest difference is that our concentration camps (although probably planned?) haven’t been established yet... Except for those patriots who participated in the J-6 protest event...
“I don’t see much problem with targeting criminal organisations and don’t think they get protected just because they use a legitimate hobby as a cover.”
I appreciate your point of view, but this comment tells me you don’t think like Americans do, and what you consider acceptable we may very well not. To most conservatives, dictating what people can wear, what tattoos they can show, and with whom they can associate is a serious violation of free speech.
Thank you NM for your helpful, first-hand report. We appreciate your desire to get the truth out.
I’m not convinced COVID is serious enough to justify the things some Australian governments have done.
But keeping the disease out of communities where a very significant proportion of the population is immunocompromised - and that is the norm for indigenous people in Australia - where the health care system could not cope with even an outbreak that affected 1 or 2% of the population - that doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.
I’m not saying I’m a fan of what WA is doing.
But while it’s only targeting criminals, I don’t really care that much.
“deeply frustrating”
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Uh huh. Heart’s just bleedin’ for ya, compadre.
troubled and consternated
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Whoo dogie...sounds terrible.
And the Five Civilized Tribes mostly voluntarily moved from the southeastern US where there conditions were not good for them to west of the Mississippi, for their own good.
Appreciate it. But the bottom line, Abos were taken against their will into concentration camps. Oops, I mean the “Centre of National Resilience”.
And when two escaped, they were chased down like runaway slaves.
And yes, a pregnant woman was arrested for posting a notice of a protest on Facebook.
I know it’s painful, but that is a straight up police state unworthy of respect to do that over a bad flu.
Puts a very interesting color on things. Thanks for the first hand report. I think you’re probably right that some of this is Chinese generated propaganda.
With that said, I do think that Australia is more autocratic as compared to the US. A system of governance that allows the sort of abuse of power that the Victorian premier is engaged in is not a favorable reflection. That he can do so legally is a gaping hole in the system. I also find Australian gun laws beyond the pale. And finally, and most important to me personally, I find Australian voting laws to be utterly repugnant. The idea that someone must vote in an election or face a fine or incarceration to me strikes at the heart of the idea of self governance. The right to opt out is as important as the right to make a selection.
So while I think Australia is an interesting place that I would like to visit one day, I am very glad to not be Australian as I would most likely find myself in prison.
True. But we weren't even experiencing the attributes of it.
I live in New York during the “lockdown” of 2020 and even then, I was able to move about and travel 50 miles outside my home and hike in the woods ( without masking ) without being harassed by the police. Do you have that kind of lockdown in Victoria?
We did. We don't anymore. But as you say, it was being done by police.
That isn't martial law or anything like it. Believe me, I know what martial law would be like in Australia. I was in the Navy, the only time we've actually come close to it, and if it had been more widespread, would have likely become involved in implementing it. As it was, it was only in place for a few days in a few locations.
(That was in response to a terrorist attack that could have killed the Queen and about a dozen of her Commonwealth Prime Ministers.)
Here, here, G2BN!
That, was great. Thanks.
Wow, thanks for that! Context is very important. Until our Native Americans got their casinos, our churches looked out for the Natives much like you do the indigenous. I bet your mom is proud of you!
FR is infested with brainwashed, defeatist old goats and leftist Soros trolls, so expect more of the same. FR is the most negative, surrender monkey site on the internet. Good luck.
Some parts of Australia are. You mention Victoria - yes, autocracy is possible here (although we've just in the last week defeated law changes that would have that problem much worse, and hopefully that's a sign we're turning the tide on that).
But what was done in Victoria couldn't be done in most states, at least not to the same extent.
Australian gun laws - yeah, there's problems there. But there seem to be US states that have stronger gun restrictions than we actually do, from what I can see.
And I totally agree with you on compulsory voting. I hate it. But it tends to favour the major parties, and especially the left wing major parties, so I can't see them getting rid of it at this point.
It is almost impossible to get incarcerated for not voting now. It's a small fine. Still wrong.
The essence of all of this is that Australia thinks that it’s legitimate to go after them, chase them, arrest them, and confine them for their own good. That’s depraved and shows you guys are really still back in the “rabbit proof fence” days.
Use the army or whatever to assist them as they ask. But nobody even tried. No matter how you slice it, you are treating them like children rather than as human beings when YOU decide what is best for them.
You guys are tone deaf. You look like nazis to the rest of the world. When you are chasing runaway slaves like tyrants, some light bulb should go off in your head.
Too much tinfoil and people chasing down one QAnon rabbit trail after another. Some discussions have been only slightly more reality-based than discussions about chemtrails and Lizard People.
The vast majority of things being posted on FR about Covid vaccines (thank you President Trump) are tin foil hat garbage.
Thanks!
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