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To: euram

“It’s time to cut ourselves loose from all the troublesome people of the Middle East, including Israel. When Trump got the US to be energy independent, that was a big step forward, now Biden has us back at square one.”

Having been in the military/industrial complex for 33 years, I have a few data points concerning Israel. I also worked for the Israeli equivalent of GE, when GE made almost everything.

Israel is probably the largest buyer of US hardware. They push the hardware into evolutionary adaptations that the US doesn’t generally explore. This gives the gear they buy from us different capabilities, sometimes superior capabilities and can lead to significant advantages. Sometimes the US adopts those changes, and, sometimes not.

The Israelis are the world’s largest producer and user of drone technology. Their innovations are available to the US and have saved billions of dollars in development costs. Also, the special relationship we have with Israel tends to limit their sales of advanced weaponry to potential US enemies.

The Israelis supplied the missile and mortar detection and interception technology used to protect US installations in Iraq.

Israel is the only democracy in a neighborhood of sometimes horrible dictatorships. If the US needs a safe harbor, then it has one.

Isarel shares intelligence with the US and I suspect this has resulted in some number of highly secret “wins” that we don’t know about. I suspect this because of the number of things that have NOT happened.

Isarel punches WAY above its weight and has acted like the rods in a nuclear reactor, slowing down any bad over reaction in the Middle East.

Isarel has and shares the most advanced desalinization technology on the planet. The lack of water is going to be the cause of wars throughout the Middle East and Israel is doing its best to be certain that even enemies have water. The original documents on the planned Saudi international city, Noam, hinted heavily that Isarel would supply the water. (Later documents played that down as it was probably a “trial balloon” to see how it played at home. But Naom can’t be built without sufficient water.)


9 posted on 11/28/2021 11:11:58 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: Gen.Blather

” Also, the special relationship we have with Israel tends to limit their sales of advanced weaponry to potential US enemies.”

Don’t make me laugh, they’ve been selling their military tech (some of which they’ve gained from the US) to our enemies for years. But since the Israel Lobby owns our Congress they continue to get away with it.

Israel to Sell Spy Drones to Russia

https://www.army-technology.com/news/news99166-html/


52 posted on 11/28/2021 12:36:08 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Gen.Blather

Having been involved in global command aor’s, and then socom/ic for three decades, you could not be more correct. Israel has provided much of our greatest intel, and facilitated many of our successes.

However, from a biblical perspective - AFTER Scripture prophesied Israel would become a nation (multiple texts, including the entirety of Ezekial 37), Scripture also clearly prophetically teaches -

- The entire world will turn against Israel (which unfortunately includes the US)
- There will be a One World government
- One world financial and economic system
- Indicates Russia will lead a massive near unsurvivable attack on Israel
- Israel survives (Ezekial 38-39)
- Israel will enter into a 7 year treaty with the antichrist (referred to as a seven year “pact with death”)
- Antichrist will then move to and rule the world from Jerusalem, break his treaty with Israel, and then he hunts down and kills 2/3rds of all Jews.

In reference to this future time, Zachariah 13:9 explicitly states only 1/3rd of Israel will be brought through.

All who believe schemes, scheme, and or curse Israel are cursed by God.


81 posted on 11/28/2021 3:29:52 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Gen.Blather; All

Having been involved in global command aor’s, and then socom/ic for three decades, you could not be more correct. Israel has provided much of our greatest intel, and facilitated many of our successes.

However, from a biblical perspective - AFTER Scripture prophesied Israel would become a nation (multiple texts, including the entirety of Ezekial 37), Scripture also clearly prophetically teaches -

- The entire world will turn against Israel (which unfortunately includes the US)
- There will be a One World government
- One world financial and economic system
- Indicates Russia will lead a massive near unsurvivable attack on Israel
- Israel survives (Ezekial 38-39)
- Israel will enter into a 7 year treaty with the antichrist (referred to as a seven year “pact with death”)
- Antichrist will then move to and rule the world from Jerusalem, break his treaty with Israel, and then he hunts down and kills 2/3rds of all Jews.

In reference to this future time, Zachariah 13:9 explicitly states only 1/3rd of Israel will be brought through.

All who believe schemes, scheme, and or curse Israel are cursed by God.


82 posted on 11/28/2021 3:30:28 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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