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To: DSH
In September 2021, New York experienced an increase in COVID deaths of 160%, compared to (pre-vax) September 2020. For October 2021, the increase in COVID deaths compared to (pre-vax) October 2020 was 186%

Why is each year supposed to follow the pattern of the previous year, month by month? But if you want to do that, at least wait until January. January 2021 had 200 deaths a day. January 2022 will probably be 20 a day, especially if we import the new and even less deadly variant.

26 posted on 11/27/2021 5:33:08 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer
Why is each year supposed to follow the pattern of the previous year, month by month? But if you want to do that, at least wait until January. January 2021 had 200 deaths a day. January 2022 will probably be 20 a day, especially if we import the new and even less deadly variant.

Well, for one thing, comparing a particular month in 2020 to the same month in 2021 eliminates the potentially confounding effect of "seasonality." For another, the one thing we know for certain is that no one in the U.S. had been vaccinated in 2020 -- a few had in December 2020, I suppose -- whereas many millions have now been, as we approach the end of 2021.

This pandemic has now been going on long enough that it is possible to make such a comparison of pre- and post-vax months, on both a national and a state-specific level. One might think that, if the vaccines truly did work to "prevent death" or "lessen death," then deaths would be down in 2021, compared to the same time in 2020 (again, the month-to-month comparison being intended to eliminate the "seasonality" confounder).

And, as it happens, deaths were down through July 2021. Then things changed, rather radically, starting in August 2021. In September 2021, COVID deaths nationwide increased 220%, compared to September 2020. Every state in the U.S., save one, experienced that increase, to some degree or another.

I don't understand the comment about "waiting until January." Why? January 2022 will bring whatever it brings. There were over 105,000 COVID deaths in the U.S. in January 2021 alone. I very much hope that figure goes down. Will it? That is something we'll just have to wait to see. But why the animosity towards pointing out what we'rI e seeing now?

I'm not worried about COVID. I trust in my Lord and Savior, not in "medical science," doctors, or politicians. I am worried about infringements on my liberty. Vaccines mandates and the like do worry me.

30 posted on 11/27/2021 7:04:42 PM PST by DSH
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