[Czech_Occidentalist]

What you are saying is nice, but unless the anti-vaxxers come with a complex alternative plan, it won’t help because these days - at least in my country - it is either vaccination, or restrictions (testing, masks, lockdowns), or letting hospitals collapse and people die.

No one is talking about active prevention (vitamin D) or treatment. If someone mentions treatment in an online discussion, he is laughed at because every sane person “knows” there is no treatment for Covid.

The alternative plan must be based on KNOWN, PROVEN AND GENERALLY ACCEPTED biochemical mechanisms and supported by credentialed people, not by idiots who believe in space aliens. Until there is such a plan, we are stuck in this swamp.

[Steve_Seattle]

"What you are saying is nice, but unless the anti-vaxxers come with a complex alternative plan, it won’t help . . . "

There are actually many anti-vax protocols on the Internet, many sponsored by legitimate doctors and researchers. One is the FLCCC Alliance (Front-Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance). They have a three-page protocol you can print out.

[Svartalfiar]

The alternative plan must be based on KNOWN, PROVEN AND GENERALLY ACCEPTED biochemical mechanisms and supported by credentialed people, not by idiots who believe in space aliens. Until there is such a plan, we are stuck in this swamp.

So how do you determine 'known', 'proven', 'accepted', or 'credentialed'? Is Japan's medical establishment good enough to fit that criteria with their endorsement of ivermectin? What about studies on Africa, showing major death differences between malarial countries and other parts (quinine)? Will Pfizemectin be an acceptable "vaccine" alternative?