That's the prevailing wisdom.
I think it's too early to tell, and we don't know enough. Maybe there is a good faith effort going on to persuade the one or two or three who don't see self-defense. There is no signal that negotiations have broken down, other than it's taken three days so far.
At this point, if I was foreman and it was clear we had one or more dug in, I'd tell the judge that at least is dug in, and won't budge even faced with the facts. But I'm quite impatient, and this foreperson may have the patience of Job.
The suggestion the foreman is a woman and is the hold out sounds right to me. This looks like an SWJ who went straight for the foreman job so she can play the heroine in social and broadcast media post trial.
Someone needs to sack up and tell her to stop talking and let the Judge know we have a hung jury. He needs to tell her he will never for for a conviction.
People need to learn there is no way to reason with these fundemrnatally irrational SWJ Karens
This foreperson is probably the holdout.
The signal that negotiations have broken down is the fact that the jury asked to be released an hour early today.
The presiding juror (foreperson) also asked if they could take the jury instructions home with them, and the judge granted the request. This is not good, because now they can spend hours looking stuff up on the Internet, which they should not be able to do.