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Clock ticking on Victoria’s state of emergency
Daily Mail (Australia/UK) ^ | 18th November 2021 | Shannon Deery

Posted on 11/17/2021 6:33:01 PM PST by naturalman1975

The state government could have just two weeks to reach agreement with concerned crossbench MPs in order to force through what is expected to be a hugely revamped pandemic management Bill.

If the Bill is defeated, deadlocked or delayed on Thursday, the government will face a ticking clock before the current state of emergency – which cannot be extended – expires on December 15.

There is only one sitting week scheduled, November 30 to December 2, before that date. But in order to get the Bill through, the government will likely need to make major concessions, such as allowing tougher oversight powers.

If the government cannot compromise and the state of emergency expires, it will be unable to enforce Covid measures beyond mid-December.

Attorney-General Jaclyn Symes has this week acknowledged that could have “significant effects”, including on mandatory vaccination rules.

“Mask requirements, particularly in high-risk settings such as public transport and healthcare settings, will be put at risk,” she said.

In order to pass the Bill, the government needs the support of four of the upper house’s 12 crossbench MPs.

While it has won the support of three, nine have said they vehemently oppose the passage of the Bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...


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1 posted on 11/17/2021 6:33:01 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Everyone should be screaming FREEDOM


2 posted on 11/17/2021 6:36:57 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: naturalman1975
Reminds me a bit of an excellent film I recently discovered called “The Lives Of Others”...a film about the Stasi.
3 posted on 11/17/2021 6:53:01 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: naturalman1975

Why would they need more/endless covid measures with a 90% vaccination rate going into summer?
The government should get out of the way and let doctors treat it while healthy people get on with their lives.
Damned governments are addicted to power and the dinosaur media has debased itself into a propaganda organ for tyrants.


4 posted on 11/17/2021 7:05:41 PM PST by fluorescence
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To: fluorescence

Because it is about power. This is a blatant power grab using the pandemic as an excuse.

Trouble is, the water is so muddy now, getting people to understand that has become a real uphill struggle.


5 posted on 11/17/2021 7:08:09 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

I really don’t understand why the Aussies haven’t already killed their commie leaders.


6 posted on 11/17/2021 7:49:25 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: MercyFlush

I really wonder at statements like that.

Large numbers of people here on FreeRepublic think America’s last election was stolen and that you have an illegitimate person serving as President.

But I don’t see much obvious going on trying to do something about that.

There are people here working to try and fix things. it’s not dramatic and visible. It’s quiet, hard work that isn’t exciting but is what can actually make a difference.

I hope the same is happening in America.

We’ve managed to derail these laws at the moment. It’s not over yet, and I’m honestly quite surprised we’ve actually managed it. It’s taken a hell of a lot of work, and in the end more than a bit of luck. Violence wouldn’t have made it easier.

Yes, sometimes if all else fails, people may need to go further. But if you can fix things through the proper constitutional and governmental processes, that’s what sticks.


7 posted on 11/17/2021 7:58:11 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

I wish you all success.


8 posted on 11/17/2021 8:09:56 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: MercyFlush
...."the Aussies haven’t already killed their commie leaders."...

They turned their guns in to the Government years ago.

We haven't ......yet.

9 posted on 11/17/2021 8:53:19 PM PST by chuckles
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To: naturalman1975
In order to pass the Bill, the government needs the support of four of the upper house’s 12 crossbench MPs.

While it has won the support of three, nine have said they vehemently oppose the passage of the Bill.


Sounds like a sure bet this won't pass, but first there's still the big question: does the author actually know what "vehemently oppose" means?
10 posted on 11/17/2021 10:21:57 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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Considering the statements I've seen from the nine, I think it's a reasonably fair statement.

Adem Somyurek, Independent

“I will not support this bill in its current form, and I would encourage the government to go back to the drawing board and consult more broadly.”

Rodney Barton, Transport Matters Party

“My constituents and the tens of thousands of people who have contacted my office in the last two years have been denied a voice. They have a right to be heard.”

Jeff Bourman, Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party

“The guts of my reasoned amendment is that we gut the whole bill, we go back and representatives from each party and the Independent members in the Legislative Council are fully consulted on the contents of this bill.”

Catherine Cumming, Independent

“(This) is the worst piece of legislation that I have ever seen in my 25 years. It contains nothing less than a drastic overreach of powers by an already power-mad Premier.”

Stuart Grimley, Derryn Hinch’s Justice Party

“Derryn Hinch’s Justice Party has made its position very clear: we do not and will not support this bill.”

Tania Maxwell, Derryn Hinch’s Justice Party

“The government is asking the public to trust it, but it has already compromised this trust through the lack of transparency and due diligence by which this legislation was developed.”

Clifford Hayes, Sustainable Australia Party

“The government has drafted this bill in secret with three crossbenchers, and it appears that they will be working with the government to steamroll this bill through, but it is a dangerous bill, and it urgently needs to go back to the drawing board.”

David Limbrick, Liberal Democrats

“So many Victorians have woken up to how important it is to protect our freedoms. I, for one, one among tens of thousands, will continue to do exactly that. The Liberal Democrats will oppose this bill.”

Tim Quilty, Liberal Democrats

“We do not trust this government with these powers, based on the practices of the last 20 months. We do not need this legislation.”

11 posted on 11/17/2021 10:27:45 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Why would the holdouts negotiate for “concessions”? All they have to do is hold out and they get more concessions than that cause the whole thing goes down in flames. Are they partial believers or something?


12 posted on 11/18/2021 5:30:22 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: naturalman1975

Yea, those mostly do sound pretty adamant, and hopefully for the Aussies1 sakes they stay that way when the rubber meets the road.


13 posted on 11/18/2021 2:05:54 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Still Thinking

Because there are some parts of the Bill that actually improve the situation we’re in right now - making a named elected person (the Health Minister) responsible for all decisions and requiring them to release all data they based their decisions on, rather than allowing the government to hide behind unpublished ‘medical advice’ and no individual being identified as responsible for any decisions, is one example - there’s others as well.


14 posted on 11/18/2021 2:18:36 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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