COVID Vaccines vs. Delta Varient, State of Texas Study

MedCram YouTube channel ^ | Roger Seheult, MD

[bhl]

A Medcram video going over the study out of Texas that describes data from case counts, vaccination status and death counts.

https://youtu.be/JWMkeMA3sfA

[bhl]

This doctor has a channel with a large number of excellent COVID videos.

This one is particularly interesting because it discusses real world data from the state of Texas, which did its own studies using a variety of data. Also interesting because Texas has (rightly) resisted lockdowns, forced masking and mandatory vaccinations. The study’s conclusions might surprise you.

[LastDayz]

I was under the impression that variants were indeterminate.

[HollyB]

Thank you. It's good to have stats. It basically says without the vax there's a significant chance of getting infected and dying. It's a shame co- morbidities were not included.
All data should be readily available to make choice.

I'm interested in being able to get full data in vaccine injuries and deaths. Unfortunately that information is being suppressed.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Agreed. What’s missing in the data is the incidence rate of severe side-effects of the vaccines or deaths caused by the vaccine. It is impossible to compare the risk of the disease to the risk of the vaccine. I suspect the risk of the vaccine is much less than the risk of the disease, but there is a large number of reported cases of a wide variety of serious health effects and death from the vaccine.

[fireman15]

It basically says without the vax there's a significant chance of getting infected and dying.

You obviously have a Clintonian definition of "significant chance of getting infected and dying". It varies from location to location and study to study. The first graph in the video we are discussing shows worldwide deaths per million for all age groups, vaccinated or not has leveling off at about 1 per million.

The seven causes of death with greater odds currently are:
Heart disease: 1 in 6
Cancer: 1 in 7
All preventable causes of death: 1 in 24
Chronic lower respiratory disease: 1 in 27
Suicide: 1 in 88
Opioid overdose: 1 in 92
Falls: 1 in 106

Obviously that is an apples to oranges comparison... but it does demonstrate how ridiculous it is to worry about Covid as compared to other causes of death. ie. 1 in a million compared to 1 in 6. NO matter how you slice it you are never going to get there...

I would not also that if a video is allowed to stay up on YouTube that means by definition that it does not contradict the official narrative.

[Triple]

Interesting analysis, but it raises lots of questions.

My #1 question is timing of death to vaccine.

If the subjects are considered unvaccinated until 2 weeks after the jab, then what proportion of the unvaccinated cases and deaths happen in this time slot.

The study also seems to ignore co-morbidities, which we know are important determinants for death rate.

[DrewsMum]

So the risk of unvaxxed getting covid and dying is worse than it was before the vaccine rollout? Because there wasn’t even a significant chance before then.
How does that happen?

[HollyB]

I’m being polite.
Whether it’s Covid or any other virus, they are all novel to me. All of my prior immunities were decimated when I had a bone marrow transplant. So, the same precautions I followed since then has not changed.

I’m grateful for this life saving treatment, But it left me in not too good of shape. I have zero interest in rolling the dice with this vaccine. It’s like playing Russian Roulette.

[fireman15]

I'm being polite.

I appreciate and understand that, but with this issue and especially with your personal circumstances... bluntness may be a more appropriate response. Your summary of the video was correct about how the person who made the video presented his case.

I'm grateful for this life saving treatment, But it left me in not too good of shape. I have zero interest in rolling the dice with this vaccine. It's like playing Russian Roulette.

First I am very glad that modern medicine has helped you to survive a very life threatening condition. I have relatives who have not faired as well from the same awful disease. I pray for your continued health.

The “vaccine mandates” are a one size fits all solution to risk that varies a hundreds of even thousands of times from individual to individual. People over 80 with health preexisting health issues are at astronomically times greater risk than kids. And there are those such as yourself with circumstances that are vastly different from the rest of the population.

And of course over the last two years a sizable percentage if not the majority of the population already fought off or had Covid many without even realizing it. These people are already graced with natural immunity which study after study along with common sense has shown is far more effective than the fleeting immunity given by the experimental vaccines.

The primary objection that I have with the video is that much of the video focused on children without acknowledging that the risk that Covid presents to children is less than from various forms of the flu. According to the CDC the number of children who have died with Covid in the entire country is supposedly around 350 since the very beginning of the “pandemic”. Knowing what I do about the way the data has been manipulated... my educated guess would be that the vast majority of those 350 deaths had little if anything to do with a positive Covid test. And the percentage of children who have been vaccinated is extremely small meaning that at this point in time no valid conclusions can be drawn.

So not being polite... as far as I am concerned the ass clowns who made this video spending so much time focusing on children and claiming that those who benefit the most from the vaccines are children and young people showed that he was intentionally making the case for something that is morally reprehensible. Go to 9:15 in the video for an example. Knowing what we do about the risks the experimental vaccines pose to children and young people for marginal benefit... someone who is advocating that they should be vaccinated has completely blown whatever credibility that they might have had.

[fireman15]

For those who would rather not be spoon fed information by the good doctor... here is the link to the study being discussed.

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/Cases-and-Deaths-by-Vaccination-Status-11082021.pdf

Personally, I am not buying much of what this “study” is purporting. It seems to be an outlier which with Covid typically indicates that some form of skulduggery in data collection or manipulation.

[Svartalfiar]

Agreed. What’s missing in the data is the incidence rate of severe side-effects of the vaccines or deaths caused by the vaccine. It is impossible to compare the risk of the disease to the risk of the vaccine. I suspect the risk of the vaccine is much less than the risk of the disease, but there is a large number of reported cases of a wide variety of serious health effects and death from the vaccine.

And how much does the data account for false positives, PCRs that are no longer valid in a month (but the same tests are valid now...?), differences between WITH and OF? Are the causes of death audited at all, or simply accepted from the hospitals as they are? Is motorcycle wreck dude still in there?