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Pentagon says Oklahoma National Guard must follow vaccine mandate
The Hill ^ | 11/15/2021 | Ellen Mitchell

Posted on 11/15/2021 5:29:54 PM PST by ducttape45

The Pentagon can require Oklahoma National Guard members to get the COVID-19 vaccine, despite the state’s highest-ranking military official insisting he will not mandate that members be inoculated, the Defense Department’s top spokesman said Monday.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin “has the authorities he needs to require this vaccine across the force, including the National Guard,” press secretary John Kirby told reporters.

“It is a lawful order for National Guardsmen to receive the COVID vaccine. It is a lawful order,” Kirby later said. “Refusing to do that, absent an approved exemption, puts them in the same potential [for punishment] as active-duty members who refuse the vaccine.”

Austin in mid-September mandated that all uniformed personnel get vaccinated for the coronavirus, although the deadline to do so varies by branch.

Last week, however, the newly appointed commander of the Oklahoma National Guard, Army Brig. Gen. Thomas Mancino, wrote in a memo that no member of the Oklahoma National Guard will be required to get vaccinated.

Mancino further wrote that “no negative administrative or legal action will be taken” against guardsmen who refuse to get vaccinated.

Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R), who has vocally opposed vaccine mandates, said Wednesday he appointed Mancino to serve as the state’s adjutant general and National Guard commander, though he still has to be confirmed by the state Senate.

Stitt earlier this month also sent Austin a letter asking him to suspend the Pentagon’s vaccine mandate for members of the Oklahoma National Guard.

Kirby said Austin had not reached out to Stitt but will “respond appropriately.”

He also said guardsmen are not shielded from the mandate under Title 32 — which allows governors to mobilize troops within their state — because they’re still federally funded when mobilized for federal active-duty military service.

Asked whether Austin plans to reach out to other governors to prevent a snowball effect of other state leaders also refusing to mandate the shot for their Guard troops, Kirby said the Pentagon chief had no plans to do so.

“If there's a snowball effect, we haven't seen it yet,” Kirby said. “If he feels like that’s a necessary thing to do, he certainly would. But it’s not something that he’s planning on doing right now.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; covidstooges; fullofbull; howaboutno; kevinstitt; obamacare; oklahoma; thomasmancino; vaccinemandate; vaccinemandates
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To: ducttape45

Frankly, we need to seriously look at the ability for the feral government to ‘federalize’ the national guards of the various states. I’ve thought it was insane for the ferals in DC to ship national guard troops to places like afghanistan and other crapholes for quite some time.


41 posted on 11/15/2021 7:19:25 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: kiryandil

I was wondering about that. So the pentagon is saying the states milita are really part of the Army? Doesn’t that blow a few anti gun arguments out of the water?


42 posted on 11/15/2021 7:26:38 PM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: ducttape45

What part of

Oklahoma

National Guard do you not understand you federal redcoat Pentagon puke ?

How bout you shove that king George 3rd crap right up your butt buddy MUTINY milley’s keister ?

Spit.


43 posted on 11/15/2021 7:28:32 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: ducttape45

Anyone know whatever happened to the mandatory Anthrax shots?
Anyone know why COVID shots are called vaccines in the experimental stage?


44 posted on 11/15/2021 7:32:09 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: redgolum
Doesn’t that blow a few anti gun arguments out of the water?

Yes, it does.

The National Guard of any state is not part of the federal army till the commander-in-chief gives the order.

(In Brandon's case, gives the ordure.)

45 posted on 11/15/2021 7:44:01 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

It’s called a self-licking ice cream cone. Operation Eldorado Canyon (F-111 attack on Kaddafi in Libya). Briefing is in the tank of the CJCS. Every service wants to play. Navy says there are fighters on Combat Air Patrol (CAP). Chairman says, “Why are they there?”
Answer “To protect the tankers for refueling.”
“Why are the tankers there?”
Answer “To refuel the fighters?”
Chairman says, “If we send the fighters and tankers home we won’t need either. Is that correct?”
Hence, the self-licking ice cream cone.
True story.


46 posted on 11/15/2021 7:57:32 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24

It’s about that time.

Long ago.


47 posted on 11/15/2021 11:04:27 PM PST by datura (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: ducttape45
He also said guardsmen are not shielded from the mandate under Title 32 — which allows governors to mobilize troops within their state — because they’re still federally funded when mobilized for federal active-duty military service.

Not sure I understand the feds logic...seems the NG should be ok until they get federalized.
48 posted on 11/15/2021 11:31:45 PM PST by stylin19a (couple in bed, wife's feisty, says, "Hurt me!" he tells her "your sister has a nicer house than you")
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Not all the coronavirus shots are mRNA-based but I agree there has got to be something more behind all these obsessively pro-vaXX minds than health but when will we find out what? Your guesses are as good as mine.


49 posted on 11/15/2021 11:40:13 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ducttape45

I don’t think the gays in the Pentagon have ever been to Oklahoma!

I think they are in for a good old fashioned ass kicking!


50 posted on 11/15/2021 11:46:17 PM PST by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism )
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks for the ping. Like I commented earlier this is going to get interesting. What needs to happen is for 2 or 3 other states making the same declaration. More would be even better.


51 posted on 11/16/2021 12:44:14 AM PST by ImpBill (America! Has anybody seen her lately?)
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To: Arcadian Empire

Remember it was the states before they allowed a federal government


52 posted on 11/16/2021 3:14:56 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Portcall24

Wow! Interesting


53 posted on 11/16/2021 8:14:03 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ducttape45
Note to Pentagon

Horn broken

Watch for finger!

54 posted on 11/16/2021 10:31:44 AM PST by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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