Posted on 11/12/2021 6:08:11 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Worldwide, cases are also rising again, despite 40-50% of the world being vaccinated. Cases seem to be rising in countries with the highest vaccination rates, but that is probably partially because they do a lot more testing, Still, cases ARE rising.
Is there a spike?
NYS counts asymptomatics, probables, and repeat positives of the same patient as new cases.
The stats are, and always have been, crap.
Not in states with freedom it isn’t, and again the virus existing doesn’t mean you get it, getting it doesn’t mean you get sick, and getting sick doesn’t mean you die...tired old lies by Democrats aside. They have long been trying to raise up their communist China patrons but now they are simultaneously trying to destroy America as well. I viewed a video of how none of this is an accident, and you can check it out top of page at Whatfinger News in crawler link. It’s nice to see someone famous join in on calling them out on it too (thanks Tucker). We also now know there isn’t a single case on record (per CDC admission to FOIA request) of someone with natural immunity passing on virus. The left lies!
We used to call that ‘the flu’ and people dies from it. Now nobody does because covid cured it...
They aren’t just spreading covid here, we now have measles and tuberculosis spreading as well. Thank you Mexico and Afghanistan!
Month 20 of ‘two weeks to flatten the curve’. Enjoy!
No more Christmas for “you”!!
“Simply anti-vaxxer propaganda:”
I’m trying to determine if you are “willfully” ignorant...
babygene wrote: “I’m trying to determine if you are “willfully” ignorant...”
The ‘willfully ignorant’ are those who repeat anti-vaxxer propaganda. Rather than attempt to verify the ‘information’, they just accept it as fact because it fits their preferred narrative that COVID is a hoax and the vaccines are poison.
Pcr is very good at differentiating covid from flu. No matter how many times they repeat the lie that it cannot it remains a lie.
Why can’t people accept that it is airborne and SPREAD by the current resident so that we/US all OBEY!
Mom MD wrote: “Pcr is very good at differentiating covid from flu. No matter how many times they repeat the lie that it cannot it remains a lie.”
Worse than that, it is propaganda promoted by anti-vaxxer websites to generate traffic and sell snake oil. One wonders how many will believe such, refuse the vaccines, and become seriously ill.
One major problem is people will repeat the narratives they want to believe rather than attempt to verify what is and isn’t truthful.
You have also mischaracterized me as an “anti-vaxxer” when nothing could be further from the truth. I have been a vaccine promoter for my entire adult life. For many years I volunteered using my bus driver CDL at multilevel care facilities to drive old folks to places where they could get their flu shots.
If you are brain dead enough not to be able to read between the lines of the government agency piece that you linked to... there really is nothing that I or anyone else will ever be able to do for you. In this past year many thousands of people were told that they had Covid when they actually had the Flu. That is indisputable. And according to data released by the CDC there were 646 deaths relating to the flu among adults reported in 2020, whereas in 2019 the CDC estimated that between 24,000 and 62,000 people died from influenza-related illnesses. And people such as yourself find that believable?
Unfortunately, people who are very nearly brain dead do not have enough common sense to properly process the information that the government and mainstream and social media allows us to have access to. As a result we end up with people such as yourself who believe that they are knowledgeable posting nonsense or cleverly written propaganda which mixes truth and fiction to leave a false impression.
As a long time vaccine proponent my chief concern is that in the future many millions of people will die from fully preventable diseases. People will not trust or take fully vetted and effective actual vaccines that are known to save lives. The vaccines that are currently being forced on the public were designed to combat a form of the virus that causes Covid that essentially no longer exists. They have no value against the current variants despite having far more serious injury and deaths associated than all other vaccines combined in the last 30 years.
DugwayDuke congratulations, you have let propaganda and misinformation turn you into a tool of the left and the Biden administration.
How many people among these 'cases' are sick and in hospital?
How many people 'among those sick and in hospital' in the above group died?
From the group above who died, tell me their ages and if they had other health problems (i.e., COPD, diabetes, high blood pressure, obese and all the others)
Go ahead, I can wait. Just asking for a friend don't you know /s
You also intentionally misquoted me... Typical out of context leftist BS. Mix in a little of your own nonsense to make things sound more stupid... They do it every day. You said that I said,
“I would add another factor... the CDC is “encouraging” labs to do flu tests at the same time that Covid PCR tests are given. But most are still not. Most PCR tests for Covid cannot differentiate between the Flu and Covid. PCR test recall: Can PCR tests tell the difference between COVID-19 and the flu?”
The actual quote you were responding to was this...
I would add another factor... the CDC is “encouraging” labs to do flu tests at the same time that Covid PCR tests are given. But most are still not. Most PCR tests for Covid cannot differentiate between the Flu and Covid. People are being told multiple times a day through the media to get Covid tests whenever they experience flu symptoms. As a result we have a huge number of false positives for Covid.
You also intentionally misquoted me... Typical out of context leftist BS. Mix in a little of your own nonsense to make things sound more stupid... They do it every day. You said that I said,
“I would add another factor... the CDC is “encouraging” labs to do flu tests at the same time that Covid PCR tests are given. But most are still not. Most PCR tests for Covid cannot differentiate between the Flu and Covid. PCR test recall: Can PCR tests tell the difference between COVID-19 and the flu?”
The actual quote you were responding to was this...
I would add another factor... the CDC is “encouraging” labs to do flu tests at the same time that Covid PCR tests are given. But most are still not. Most PCR tests for Covid cannot differentiate between the Flu and Covid. People are being told multiple times a day through the media to get Covid tests whenever they experience flu symptoms. As a result we have a huge number of false positives for Covid.
Seasonal respiratory virus + Vaccines wane very quickly.
Is anyone really surprised?
fireman15 wrote: “You also intentionally misquoted me... Typical out of context leftist BS. Mix in a little of your own nonsense to make things sound more stupid... They do it every day. You said that I said:”
I quoted the pertinent part of your post exactly as posted. Your principal allegation was the PCR test cannot/does not differentiate between flu and covid. I posted information that totally disproved that point.
fireman15 wrote: “The vaccines that are currently being forced on the public were designed to combat a form of the virus that causes Covid that essentially no longer exists. They have no value against the current variants despite having far more serious injury and deaths associated than all other vaccines combined in the last 30 years.”
More falsehoods. The current vaccines have reduced effectiveness against the delta variant but they are still effective.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2114290
Furthermore, the link you posted clearly states that CDC recalled the PCR test, not because it couldn’t tell the difference between flu and covid, but because the new test would test for both simultaneously saving time and money. The old test could tell you if you had the flu if it was structured to test for the flu. It could tell you if you had the covid if it was structured to test for the flue. IOW, it could test for one or the other but not for both at the same time.
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