58,900 long-dwelling containers now on penalty clock in LA, Long Beach: 40,000 containers in LA and 18,900 in Long Beach have been sitting for 9-plus days. Daily $100 penalty per container, increasing in $100 increments per day.

Freightwaves ^ | 11/03/2021 | Lori Ann LaRocco

[Alberta's Child]

That makes sense. Based on what I’m hearing from folks in my line of work, these fines will likely not stand up under a legal challenge in many — if not most — cases.

Customers cannot be charged for delays or demurrage unless the customer actually has the ability to move the freight. If a port terminal has a problem with terminal gate congestion and/or chassis availability, then the customers shouldn’t be paying these charges.

[oldasrocks]

The fines should be levied against californicate for the trucking screwups.

[Gen.Blather]

“Damn, and the stuff in those containers may be going to Dollar Stores everywhere.”

I was reading a shoe department manager said they’d finally gotten their container of shoes and they were all so moldy it was a total loss. Containers that sit on the water for months instead of days will likely have a very high rate of spoilage.

I think the issue is there aren’t enough trucks and drivers to pick up the containers.

Everything worked perfectly as long as everything worked perfectly. Then, one spanner got thrown into the very fine gears of the system and the system broke.

On the good side, I think this has ended the era of outsourcing, at least to China and at least to items that will require a port to get here.

[Titus-Maximus]

Use them to build a wall!

[ridesthemiles]

Soooo-—DAY one is $100

Day 2 is $200

Day 3 is $300???

Am I understanding this remark???

[ridesthemiles]

Summer of 2020 in Los Angeles:

Freeways were open-—no one was commuting-—

SMOG was the worst since the early 60’s......

[SeekAndFind]

Yes, you’re right.