Posted on 10/28/2021 8:13:39 AM PDT by Paul46360
Steve Deace
@SteveDeaceShow
Illinois reporting 77.7% of its Covid deaths last week were vaccinated.
117 total Covid deaths last week: https://dph.illinois.gov/covid19.html
91 of them vaccinated if you look at the increase in cumulative weekly breakthroughs here: https://dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine/vaccine-breakthrough.html
91/117 = 77.7%
It’s also unforgivable they are about to inject non-FDA approved treatments into healthy children who have zero percent chance of dying from covid.
One does advocate for injecting kids with an experimental vaccine unless their mind has been overthrown with fear.
I forgot about all,that too. Even the whole,nursing home crimes were because they got paid gov money too. Cuomo and ilk made out like bandits. 10’s of 1000’s of extremely vulnerable and helpless people lost their lives and no one have a crap- not the government, not the nursing homes, not the hospitals, not law enforcement, not th4 msm, not anyone practically. Janice Dean, out both her inlaws because of ny’s greed. Again, this was extremely unethical, and the med field in that state didn’t care. Hardly,anyone came forward to stop it even though they all knew what was going on.
They all covered it up. The ONLY reason I even s,ightly made news was because a new person wanted his job, and exposed what he did, promising to prosecute, only,to drop,the ball as soon as she was elected evidently
Thanks for,the info. Gotta find out how many were,elderly or sick,,that is 8mportaht to know. There comes a point when they can no longer say “oh, only the sick,or elderly are dying”
Exactly, good point. Nurses at nursing homes in ny confessed they were orfered to cover up if I recall correctly when the woman was pining for Cuomo’s job. Others might have known but were silent, and many likely did not know, as theynwere not the ones handling the info
>>When 100% of people are vaccinated, 100% of people who die from covid will have been vaccinated.
And when 100% of people wear seatbelts, 100% of people that die in car accidents will die wearing seatbelts - does that mean they don’t work and you shouldn’t wear one?
people should wear life jackets at all times incase of flash floods though lol
After 18 months of experience, the mortality rate from the virus in the US has not decreased. Maybe reducing the mortality rate was not the objective.
The president ordered companies over over 100 employees to fire anybody who got a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt, or didn't provide proof, twice a week, that they were driving with a seat belt?
And you have to have the seat belt inserted into your body? And reinserted every 6 months to qualify?
I'm thinking that you can guess where I suggest where you go insert your seat belt.
>>The president ordered companies over over 100 employees to fire anybody who got a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt, or didn’t provide proof, twice a week, that they were driving with a seat belt?
I am not arguing with the mandate - I strongly disagree with that, and believe it is unconstitutional and if I had children under 12 I also *would not* vaccinate them, even though I have chosen to be vaccinated myself based on my age and health profile BUT...simply pointing out that anyone posting bogus stats that are easily disproved and twisted to make a point really doesn’t help the cause, it just makes people opposed to the vax seemed ignorant.
The worst possible thing anyone can do when trying to argue a point or change peoples minds, is make claims that are easily disproven - even by mistake - it has the effect of making the rest of the claim - even if true - easily dismissed.
Thanks for posting the NCHS data. I rarely see that on Free Republic.
The 8,300 fatalities for the week ending 09 October 2021 will probably settle around 12,000 - almost three times higher than the same week in 2020.
It takes the NCHS death certificate data at least four weeks to catch up with the daily estimates.
For the six weeks preceding 09 October 2021, only one week has been below 12,000 - that was Week 33 at 11,747.
Do you have a one click link to the NCHS data on the CDC website?
I can only get it as a Microsoft Excel download directly into my computer.
I think that discourages a lot of people from using it more often.
I do not think children need to be vaccinated for Covid-19.
Do I know if the Covid vaccine may have more side effects in children more than the any vaccine? No. I do not know but since children are not effected by Covid as adults or older adults are, it’s irrelevant.
Children with certain birth defects, cancer, had a transplant, their parents should consult their Doctor.
So I had a Cardiologist appointment in September.
Great patient-doctor relationship.
We talk about hunting and shooting usually.
He came into the room with an Intern and he was wearing a “Wounded Warrior” polo.
He’s in his early 40’s.
Just want to give you a somewhat good visual of the guy.
I asked him, kind of in the middle of the conversation to get his real off the cuff response:
“I’ve been hearing about people getting Myocarditis by the truck loads from the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, have you been having that issue a lot?”
The Doc’s answer surprised me.
He said they have seen 2 patients, younger men in their 20s with Para-Carditis (the sack around the heart) they received anti inflammatories and we’re fine after 3 days. Treated from home.
He continued as I waited expecting to hear of 80-100 people with Myocarditis due to vaccines…….then he surprised me again. He said they had ONE woman with Myocarditis as a result of a Covid infection in spring and he said she’s still being treated for that and other issues.
A bit more background……..
I go to Traverse City Heart and Vascular Institute.
It’s the 4th best hospital in the region for Cardiac.
The closest to me also.
#1 Cleveland Clinic
#2 U. Of Michigan
#3 Beaumont Troy, Michigan
#4 Traverse City Heart
So it’s top rated and busy.
This is the type of information that beats any Media source.
To me, this first hand account out weighs anything on the internet, or stats presented by any Federal source. This is real.
You are right in a way about both sides having misinformation.
However, the Leftist media would be the opposite side to you and not other Conservatives.
Why? Because every Vaccinated Conservative I know in my circle or bubble Do Not approve of Vaccine mandates, or any mandates for that matter. No Conservatives I know want children vaccinated or wearing masks.
People can be both……vaccinated and against Government intrusion.
But sorry I went long. It’s been a pleasure and interesting convo Bob.
If he has seen pe3sonaly a couple cases of heart problems I. That one hospital, the it stands to reason that this Is happening all across the nation.
As I mentioned, usually when a drug shows risk,for injury or death, it is taken off the market like fen phen was, not pushed on little kids with a “we gotta use it in order to see what it does” mentality.
Your doctor’s experience and answers pretty much summer the news reports that we are seeing.
Are there “bucketloads” of victims? As far as we know, no. (But don’t forget, many people get sick and don’t suffer enough to alarm alarm enough that they seek medical help, then one day they have issues or drop dead. We are seeing more and more cases where kids are getting it, the dropping g dead while playing sports, or simply being In class. These are news reports, not blog e tries by people with agendas)
There are enough heart problem cases now after getting the vaccine (which you doc backed up with his own answers) to warrant a serious I vestigstion and research into the problem. It has gone from anecdotal instances to now an issue that warrents further investigation at the very least.
Correlation of course doesn’t mean causation, until numbers begin to climb, then it needs to be taken seriously when we are talking about people’s health, especially younger people. Men into,their 40’s are suffering heart problems after getting the shots, this is verified y, once again, by news investigations- not some random internet blog post.
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