'This Is Insanity': Democrats Discuss New Plan to Help Pay for Massive Spending Bill - An annual tax on unrealized capital gains on liquid assets for the very rich.

Townhall ^ | 10/25/2021 | Leah Barkoukis

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Senior Democrats confirmed that a proposal to tax billionaires’ unrealized capital gains will likely be included in President Biden’s $2 trillion spending package.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen explained on CNN Sunday that the proposal, raised by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, would impose an annual tax on unrealized capital gains on liquid assets.

“I wouldn’t call that a wealth tax, but it would help get at capital gains, which are an extraordinarily large part of the incomes of the wealthiest individuals and right now escape taxation until they’re realized,” Yellen said.

The tax is expected to affect people with $1 billion in assets or $100 million in income for three consecutive years, according to a person familiar with the discussions. The idea, for which President Biden recently expressed support after excluding it from his campaign plans and administration agenda, would affect a narrower group of people than the capital-gains changes that have already flopped among congressional Democrats. […]

When compared with the tax-rate increases in the House bill, the emerging Wyden proposal would be significantly more progressive, in that it would raise its money from the very, very rich—likely fewer than 1,000 taxpayers—instead of the merely rich. But House Democrats have questioned whether it makes sense to add a relatively untested idea at this late stage. (WSJ)

The proposal was blasted on social media as sheer lunacy. 

Taxing unrealized gains is not just lunacy but straight up premeditated murder of our economy. The only people who won’t suffer as a result are corporate oligarchs who‘ll buy up everything on the cheap. It’ll cause dependency at first and then revolution later. This is insanity. https://t.co/xsaqedEmf3— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) October 25, 2021

This is insanity. https://t.co/QDrm4aa2Lp— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 25, 2021

Taxing what is basically *theoretical* income before it’s actually income is nuts.

Will people be able to deduct unrealized losses? https://t.co/6cm9p44NB4— Tim Murtaugh (@TimMurtaugh) October 25, 2021

Maybe try eliminating step up basis first. And carried interest. That would be a start. Unrealized gains on illiquid securities would be a unmitigated disaster. https://t.co/rxGCQ6cKUv— Mike Novogratz (@novogratz) October 25, 2021

Proposing a tax on unrealized capital gains is insane.

Imagine paying taxes on something you haven’t sold just to see it go down afterwards.

I assume that means we can write off unrealized losses, right? Right!?pic.twitter.com/Q4tZE0mERl— The Wolf Of All Streets (@scottmelker) October 25, 2021

Taxing unrealized gains is only minimally about taxation itself. That's not the bigger objective.

Taxing unrealized gains grants the government the ability to monitor your each and every move.— Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.com (@JordanSchachtel) October 25, 2021

“Unrealized capital gains” is not a thing; do not normalize it. Call it out for what they are proposing: unlawful seizure of personal property.— Carol Roth (@caroljsroth) October 25, 2021

[HamiltonJay]

hahah will they refund the tax if the unrealized gains turn into losses in the future?

[HamiltonJay]

hahah will they refund the tax if the unrealized gains turn into losses in the future?

[Texas resident]

Remember the “luxury tax”? It was a tax on high end boats, airplanes and jewelry. Well, the “rich” quit buying these items and it hurt the people who work in those industries.

This is a wealth tax. IF they get a wealth tax it will have to migrate down to people with smaller net worth.

[cgbg]

It was a tax on high end boats, airplanes and jewelry. Well, the “rich” quit buying these items

You forgot to add the word "domestically" to your post.

The boat manufacturers off-shore did just fine.

The rich don't follow anyone else's plans. They create their own plans. That is how they got rich and/or stay rich.

[cgbg]

The “repercussions” are that the rich have to chat with their tax attorney to find a creative way not to pay the taxes.

Billionaires didn’t get to be billionaires by paying lots of taxes.

[GOPJ]

Is democrat desperation based on hidden money in the bill financing commie dreams?

[SuperLuminal]

"IF they get a wealth tax it will have to migrate down to people with smaller net worth."

Yep!
Same old crap every time...

[damper99]

Watching the Yellen video confirms that a complete moron can become Treasury Secretary.