Posted on 10/22/2021 6:20:42 PM PDT by BeauBo
That last chart is extraordinary. It looks like the hospitalization rate is starting to creep up slowly, but it’s vastly better than anyone could have reasonably expected, especially against a variant that didn’t exist when the vaccines were initially designed.
A highly relevant snapshot of the beginning.
“ A highly relevant snapshot of the beginning.”
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The “beginning”? In the US, COVID-19 began in early 2020 and not early 2021. But feel free to continue to distort and to mislead.
Are you telling me that COVID-19 didn’t suddenly begin on Jan 1, 2021 with 200,000 cases?
Or maybe the rollout began around that timeframe?
Hmm, that’s a tough one.
Damn, that distorted & misleading CDC data is out of control.
“That last chart is extraordinary. “
That last chart is not like the others, for two reasons.
First, it covers a different timeframe - February to August 2021. It shows the Delta Wave on the way up, but cuts off before that wave crested. Since then, hospitalizations have dropped in half, as shown in the other chart above.
The other big difference, is that the last chart shows the difference between those fully vaccinated vs. those not. That is its main point - the great bulk of hospitalizations have been among the unvaccinated.
The worse the case is, the more likely that the patient is unvaccinated. ICU cases are more likely unvaccinated than hospitalizations. Those on ventilators more likely than those in ICU. Those who die are more likely than those on ventilators.
Overall, about 7,000 vaccinated Americans have died of COVID, out of about 733,000 COVID deaths - about 100 times more likely (although that includes all the COVID deaths before vaccines were available, which). That strong vaccine protective effect is even more pronounced, if you adjust to compare people of similar age and health. The great bulk of vaccinated COVID deaths were among people older than the average life expectancy (77).
“Taking a baby still alive from an abortion to harvest it for vaccines is beyond sickening.”
Fortunately, nothing like that is occurring in the real world.
About half a century ago (1973) in the Netherlands, some human embryonic kidney cells were modified and cultured in a laboratory, and the descendants of that cell line have have been cultivated, and used since in testing medicines (called HEK-293). It is debated whether those initial cells came from an abortion rather than a miscarriage, but they are generally accepted to be from a deliberate abortion.
Those cell cultures are not used to produce the vaccines in used the United States. No human fetal cells are.
After the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were developed and tested, FDA procedures required that independent third parties also test the vaccines for safety. It was there that third parties used HEK-293 cells to test the vaccine samples for adverse effects (an industry standard test).
“Colorado having a wave, cases (hospitalizations) and deaths still going up.”
As the local Delta waves gradually spread Northward, Colorado seems to be among the very last States to crest. Neighboring States have.
The low density rural areas, or other lifestyle and policy factors, may sustain some slower Plateau-level burn after the peak subsides, like the neighboring States of New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming are seeing.
I think that part of the situation in Colorado, is that it was not hit as hard in prior waves, as were many other parts of the country, so there were just more people remaining for Delta to work its way through. Most everyone will have to get it eventually.
Better to take it now, after the bulk of the population and the overwhelming majority of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated, than before. Colorado is in relatively strong shape in terms of vaccination, so outcomes should be moderated.
Many of the modelers anticipate a bit of a seasonally enhanced rebound this Winter, before Delta decisively burns down to just a smoldering ember rate as an endemic disease. If that doesn’t occur soon (always hard to predict if a given year’s season will peak early, mid or late), I would expect that Colorado is near its Delta peak for cases, and hospitalization numbers should follow a week or two behind.
hopefully. it looked line colorado had peaked. couple weeks ago then numbers went up again. We will see
Have you seen the new Dune movie yet?
I am waiting for my friend to get off COVID quarantine, to go see it. He is recovering from a mild case, had the Pfizer vaccine in March.
Not yet. I’ll likely go to see it at one of our local IMAX theaters. Hopefully it will be successful enough for them to green light Part 2.
Oh man, I didn’t even think about that.
No part two would be tragic. I’ll do my part, and drag family and friends, and that panhandler from outside 7-11.
Checking back, yeah, CO’s cases still going up. :-(
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