[cgbg]

if labor goes up 10% the have to close? BS

We have had discussions before.

If they knew for a fact that 10% would get it done, and that would be the end of it--yeah, then they can crunch the numbers and figure out a way to make it work.

The key in the Carter years was uncertainty.

Small business owners hate uncertainty. It freezes them in place--and they do not want to put money down if they think there is a reasonable chance they will lose the business anyway.

Life as a small business-person is very difficult.

I know you don't believe this--and there is no way I can convince you.

In these times most small businesses are in true crisis--trying to figure out if they are going concerns, or circling the drain.

[central_va]

Life as a small business-person is very difficult.

Tough sh!t. Life as an IT worker in a H-1b visa crazy world is difficult.

We should not have one of two political parties soley in tune with small business and their need for cheap labor. There is more to life than "small business".

[21twelve]

A friend used to have a small pizza place (for 10+ years). Great pizzas. I suppose it has been 5+ years now that he went out of business.

Ingredients were getting more expensive, and the minimum wage kept going up and up (Seattle area). In order to keep his good people he had to increase their pay as well to keep them above his newly hired at the minimum wage.

We would go there once in awhile to bring him some business as he started slowing down as the price of the pizzas kept increasing. But if he hadn’t been a friend, no way would I have paid what those pizza’s cost (I can’t recall now - but $27 or something??)