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Hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops have not yet complied with vaccine mandate as deadlines near
Washington Post via Yahoo ^ | October 10th, 2021 | Alex Horton

Posted on 10/10/2021 8:57:11 AM PDT by Mariner

Hundreds of thousands of U.S. service members remain unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated against the coronavirus as the Pentagon's first compliance deadlines near, with lopsided rates across the individual services and a spike in deaths among military reservists illustrating how political division over the shots has seeped into a nonpartisan force with unambiguous orders.

Overall, the military's vaccination rate has climbed since August, when Defense Department leaders, acting on a directive from President Joe Biden, informed the nation's 2.1 million troops that immunization would become mandatory, exemptions would be rare and those who refuse would be punished. Yet troops' response has been scattershot, according to data assessed by The Washington Post.

For instance, 90 percent of the active-duty Navy is fully vaccinated, whereas just 72 percent of the Marine Corps is, the data show, even though both services share a Nov. 28 deadline. In the Air Force, more than 60,000 personnel have just three weeks to meet the Defense Department's most ambitious deadline.

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If they can refuse a faulty vax, they can refuse to take that hill.

The US military will not tolerate mutiny. Expect the sledge hammers to come out soon.

1 posted on 10/10/2021 8:57:11 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

all just part of dementia joe’s plan to destroy our national military power ...


2 posted on 10/10/2021 9:00:54 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mariner
Why do the vaccine protected people need to be protected from the non vaccinated people by forcing the non vaccinated people to use the same vaccine that does not protect the fully vaccinated people in the first place? Answer: Because the government is using pandemic fear to program the people to accept socialism.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

3 posted on 10/10/2021 9:01:18 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: Mariner

Of course not. It’s a purge.


4 posted on 10/10/2021 9:04:53 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Mariner

Sadly, it’ll be a win-win for liberals who want to hurt our military.


5 posted on 10/10/2021 9:06:24 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: Mariner

“If they can refuse a faulty vax, they can refuse to take that hill.”

If your “Leader” is demonstrably unfit for command, you have a DUTY to replace that leader not to commit suicide.


6 posted on 10/10/2021 9:09:04 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuitss)
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To: catnipman
all just part of dementia joe’s plan to destroy our national military power ....

B. Hussein Obama dreamed of the United Nations commanding our troops who would be wearing blue helmets and UN patches and armbands. Biden's handlers may have the same dream.

7 posted on 10/10/2021 9:11:39 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Macoozie

I suspect you have zero days military service.


8 posted on 10/10/2021 9:14:59 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: frank ballenger

The only version I liked of that was the fictional one in Dr Who, UNIT.

I’ll pass on the real thing.


9 posted on 10/10/2021 9:17:27 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Mariner

I think you are confusing taking action against an enemy in war with taking action against yourself in peacetime.


10 posted on 10/10/2021 9:25:33 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Mariner

The threat was to DD everyone who refuses the vax. If 100k troops opt out and takt the proffered DD it would occasion some schadenfreude. But it would assist in the purging of the military of conservative and Christian troops so that it will be much harder to field an effective force in foreign operations and easier to field an effective force against domestic dissidents.


11 posted on 10/10/2021 9:27:41 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe 2)
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To: Mariner

It makes perfect sense to encourage American troops to refuse a U.S. developed vaccine against a Chinese engineered bioweapon, especially if we anticipate a military conflict with China in the future. Nope, no problem here. Carry on.


12 posted on 10/10/2021 9:32:22 AM PDT by Izzatso
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To: Mariner

Marines are stubborn and don’t like being pushed around. It’s part of what makes them Marines. So if you’ve got some who just think the mandate is wrong...they won’t budge.


13 posted on 10/10/2021 9:38:20 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: arthurus
No, there has never been a threat to DD anyone -- except the threat manufactured by some people who didn't know what they were talking about.

People who don't get the shot will get non-punitive discharges - which still sucks.

14 posted on 10/10/2021 9:40:59 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Mariner

MILITARY VACCINATION CASE LAW

https://sites.duke.edu/lawfire/2021/02/18/can-troops-be-ordered-to-take-the-covid-vaccine-a-guest-post-analyzes-the-law/

The precedents are very unfavorable.

MILITARY MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS

“Temporary Exemptions may be granted for up to 365 days based on:
Temporary contraindications to vaccines (e.g., pregnancy, acute illness, treatments causing immune suppression)
Pending completion of an ongoing medical evaluation
Medical Supply exemption: lack of vaccine supply

“Permanent Exemptions may be granted indefinitely based on one of the following**:
Determination by a medical provider that further vaccination will seriously endanger patient’s health
Medical, Reactive exemption: Previously severe reaction after specific vaccine (e.g., anaphylaxis)
Medical, Immune exemption: Evidence of existing immunity (e.g., by serologic antibody test, documentation of previous infection or natural infection presumed)
**Indefinite or permanent exemptions may be revoked if an alternate form of prophylaxis is not available, if a medical condition or vaccination guideline changes, or if a provider experienced in vaccine adverse-event management determines that the risk of acquiring the disease is greater than the risk of vaccine exposure.

“Health care professionals are available for consultation regarding exemption recommendations. Both health care professionals and service members are encouraged to contact the DHA Immunization Healthcare Support Center at 877-438-8222 (DSN 761-4245), Option 1, for vaccine medical exemption guidance.”

https://www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Health-Readiness/Immunization-Healthcare/Clinical-Consultation-Services/Exemption-Guidance

FETAL CELLS

“Vaccines for varicella (chickenpox), rubella (the “R” in the MMR vaccine), hepatitis A, rabies (one version, called Imovax®) and COVID-19 (one U.S.-approved version, Johnson & Johnson (J&J)/Janssen) are all made by growing the viruses in fetal cells. All of these, except the COVID-19 vaccine, are made using fibroblast cells. The COVID-19 vaccine (J&J/Janssen) is made using fetal retinal cells.”

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/fetal-tissues

“Early in the development of mRNA vaccine technology, fetal cells were used for ‘proof of concept’ (to demonstrate how a cell could take up mRNA and produce the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein) or to characterize the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.”

“The non-replicating viral vector vaccine produced by Johnson & Johnson did require the use of fetal cell cultures, specifically PER.C6, in order to produce and manufacture the vaccine.”

https://www.health.nd.gov/sites/www/files/documents/COVID%20Vaccine%20Page/COVID-19_Vaccine_Fetal_Cell_Handout.pdf

“COVID-19 vaccines do not contain aborted fetal cells. However, Johnson & Johnson did use fetal cell lines — not fetal tissue — when developing and producing their vaccine, while Pfizer and Moderna used fetal cell lines to test their vaccines and make sure that they work.”

“Fetal cell lines are grown in a laboratory and were started with cells from elective abortions that occurred several decades ago in the 1970s-80s. They are now thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. None of the COVID-19 vaccines use fetal cells derived from recent abortions.”

https://www.uclahealth.org/webview.cfm?id=3680&cat=Addressing%20Concerns


15 posted on 10/10/2021 9:44:34 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Mariner

There will be a lot of litigation on this…. Clearly rushed process for testing the vaccine that did not go through the normal process. Lots of data to show that there is little risk to the force from not being vaccinated… more than a few people have already retained council. The Whitehouse doesn’t want this in court because there will be discovery and they will lose. Relax and get some popcorn. More than a few service members already claiming injury from the vaccine….


16 posted on 10/10/2021 9:46:13 AM PDT by WinstonSmith1984 (The DOJ is a far left militia.)
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To: Mariner

About the only leverage servicepeople have is to not reenlist.

The “Commander-in-Chief” may win a battle, but he can lose a war.

The Marine Corps can’t afford to lose 28% of its most determined fighters.


17 posted on 10/10/2021 9:50:03 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: arthurus

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-dashboard/?utm_source=web&utm_medium=trending&utm_campaign=COVID-19-vaccine-monitor

Scroll down a small amount.

Click on the “Definitely not” button.

“Reps 23%” “Dems 4%”

Employer mandates are being seen as politically-related employee purging.


18 posted on 10/10/2021 9:57:12 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Mariner

None of this is about helping people. It’s all about forcing folks to comply with progressives orders. If it had anything at all to do with helping people there would be no war against alternate treatment regimens. Lot of service people are seeing this, and it has nothing to do with whether or not soldiers will comply with orders to “Take that hill”.


19 posted on 10/10/2021 9:58:12 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: Mariner

So the choice is - submit to the vax, so you can have the chance to die for woke, careerist generals, and DC insiders and elites who hate you

Or not.


20 posted on 10/10/2021 9:59:02 AM PDT by PGR88
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