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To: monkeyshine
If the vaccines work to reduce risk of serious illness and death that is a good thing - we just don’t know the true cost of that good thing at this time.

According to the CDC, there were over 22,000 more deaths "associated with COVID" in the U.S. in September 2021 then there were in September 2020. In September 2020, no one in this country had been vaccinated for COVID. As of September 2021, millions had been. While there is surely some explanation for this, I am at a loss to understand how, in light of these data alone, it can be said that the vaccines reduce the risk of death.

13 posted on 10/07/2021 1:12:51 PM PDT by DSH
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To: DSH

I saw an infographic someone posted here of the Clinical Trial data. It was some sort of Venn diagram showing that (if I remember it correctly) during the trial there were virtually no difference in the numbers of deaths between placebo vs drug. But once the placebo/control arm crossed over to the drug arm (which they did way too soon imo) the deaths in the formerly placebo arm jumped. In raw numbers it still wasn’t very high overall but noticeable. The FDA should not have given approval to Pfizer for many many reasons I have spelled out before.

As for the extra 22,000 more deaths, who knows. Maybe after being paid to sit around for 16 months 100,000’s of people became obese or diabetic etc. Maybe the vaccine is not good for people with prior infection. Maybe there are other variants or mutations within the variant. Your guess is as good as mine.


18 posted on 10/07/2021 2:43:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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