Posted on 10/05/2021 7:32:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
Pathetic reasoning. Killing is wrong, in a secular or religious world. That being established, the only argument is whether or not a fetus is alive.
Uncritical thinkers on the Left like to mischaracterize objection to abortion on demand as a purely religious thing.
Why wouldn’t an atheist be just as horrified and appalled at Planned Parenthood’s baby parts-selling as anyone else? Why would a Hindu be any less shocked at an environment of filthy clinics where terrible crimes are performed than a Christian? Most of the really militant, visible pro-abortion folks are upwardly-mobile or wealthy white women who supposedly don’t need abortion - it’s the poor and ethnic minorities who need it. (Supposedly.) When you get out there and demonstrate and throw poop at supreme court justices, etc., you’re supposedly helping the poor and ignorant.
Except that’s not really it: It’s guilty consciences all the way around for these dames. They use their power and influence to change the minds of youth and the poor and disabled - if they can make everyone think that it’s not just okay to get an abortion, but some sort of social ritual that almost everybody has to go through - like wearing braces - then they can sleep without guilt. So they think.
Oh yea. . right. . .but it’s okay for the trannies to impose their confused belief about their sexual identity upon us.
Liberal logic......People who don’t wear a seatbelt are a threat to people who do.
The Constitution does not prescribe “separation” of church and state. It merely prohibits CONGRESS from enacting a law concerning a religious establishment, i.e., mandating an established church.
Ana has a degree from an American law school. Even for libs, this is a really weak and flawed argument. AA? Somewhere in Nicaragua, a village is missing its idiot.
Separation of Church and State simply means that US doesn’t have a State Religion unlike, say, Sweden (Lutheran) or most Middle Eastern countries (Islam).
It is designed to protect Churches.
And, for some reason, these @$$#0!3$ never seem to get to the part about “NOR PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF.”
That's because pro-lifers (who, like myself, are most often religious) let them get away with it. When someone gives me that line, I let them know in no uncertain terms that I would be pro-life even if I were an atheist. I point to the science that human life begins at conception and after that the deliberate killing of such human life is the murder of an innocent child. And I don't let it go until they either have to acknowledge my argument (or they burst out crying or in anger or walk off-- whichever comes first).
Pro-lifers need to be ready with well thought-out scientific and rational arguments in favor of life. Throwing Scripture verses at them does no good because they'll either twist it or ignore it. Make them listen to the empirical facts that they can't refute.
I am personally opposed to murder, theft, rape, manslaughter but I would not to push these views on anyone else.... - DUH
Didn’t the states/colonies have official religions at one time?
That’s what caused me to change my mind. The more rhetoric that gets thrown at me, the less I listen. A friend told me why Roe v Wade was pure dee old sh1t any way you slice it. Once I had worked my head around that, I started to feel differently about the entire thing. I had been of the “it’s just a clump of cells” persuasion for some time. Now I don’t think that, either. Logic worked on me and then I arrived at the point that I started to feel sympathy. Am I still lost? Hell, I don’t know! I guess I’ll find out.
I agree with and applaud your approach. I do have a couple of observations, though, if you don’t mind:
1) They will leave, thinking you a religious nut. That is how they will describe the encounter and internalize your arguments, even though of a scientific basis.
2) Their belief is religious. The conviction that the unborn are not human is a religious belief on their part. Their sacrament is abortion. Religious beliefs are rarely changed by science.
So, as I say your approach is sound. But it might be that throwing Scripture at them is exactly as effective.
Haha, and saying you’re a “catholic” no longer means a whole lot, either. Old #ChoMoeJoe says he’s a catholic and like #HagNancy he uses his “catholicism” to claim the moral high ground; however: https://dailycaller.com/2021/10/05/biden-reverses-trump-rule-abortion/
The child has its own distinct DNA. That’s science that agrees with religion.
Your logic is one of the reasons that social media censors pro-lifers.....Can’t have people,especially minority and poor people getting the truth....
The black CEO of PP has admitted in the NY Times that PP and Sanger were racist...Nobody on the dem side cares that PP has murdered more blacks than the KKK.... Abortion /birth control is about wiping out the poor,especially black america.....
I’m sorry to hear that she is breeding!
The formula “separation of church and state” is nowhere to be found in the US Constitution. Rather, its origin is found in correspondence between former president Jefferson and the Danbury (CT) Baptist association discussing how both parties worked during the Constitutional Convention era to protect religion FROM government, and not government FROM religion. The Establishment Clause of the Constitution prohibits the federal government from making any law establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise of religion:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
The Baptists, who were highly persecuted in New England and Virginia during colonial times, in communicating with George Mason and Thomas Jefferson, were successful in opposing any federal role in establishing a state religion and in codifying freedom of religion in America.
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