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There's a Big Social Security Announcement Coming That You Won't Want to Miss
The Motley Fool ^ | Oct 5, 2021 | Maurie Backman

Posted on 10/05/2021 4:23:15 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

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This will result in huge increase for seniors health insurance deduction every month from social security check. As a result SS will not be an increase.


21 posted on 10/05/2021 5:44:32 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: ballplayer

+1


22 posted on 10/05/2021 5:47:23 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me! )
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To: Afterguard

BUTT Inflation is up 25%.....


23 posted on 10/05/2021 5:54:26 AM PDT by mastertex (mastertex)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

All I can say is, no way will they be increasing SS checks by 6%.

I don’t know how they’ll do it, but that ain’t happening.


24 posted on 10/05/2021 5:55:41 AM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Waiting until age 72 has no benefit as you max out your benefits at age 70. Everybody should be taking it by age 70 or you are leaving your hard earned money on the table. I plan to start collecting on my own account at 67, like yourself. I know many here advocate taking it as early as possible (62) but that only makes sense if you plan on living a short life. If you are looking to live into your 80s and 90s (or beyond), you are probably best off taking it between 67 and 70, where you lock in much higher monthly payments for life.

Anyway, I thought all us older people were supposed to die of COVID. What happened?

25 posted on 10/05/2021 6:10:05 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 104 days away from outliving George Harrison)
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To: pnut22

“I believe they removed the cost of food and the cost of energy from the inflation formula. What a joke.”

In more Laissez faire times, food and energy prices were viewed as cyclical in nature, thus their removal from inflation made sense.

This ceases to be the case when you vilify the energy sector, pull drilling leases, shut down pipelines, boost your energy competitors, and basically make everything that is subject to trucking, (like food), priced to reflect those realities.

In short, you are correct as the pricing on these commodities is no longer economically-cyclical, their increase is by design.

Economic illiteracy is now at the helm, and it shows.


26 posted on 10/05/2021 6:45:26 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

They should just remove the cap and increase the age to 70. Today 70s are the new 60s.


27 posted on 10/05/2021 6:54:04 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: kabar

The “trust fund” is located in a filing cabinet here:

https://wallstreetexaminer.com/2017/03/social-security-trust-fund-just-stack-ious-west-virginia-filing-cabinet/

The good news is that each of can create our own Social Security trust fund.

Here is how you do it.

Write on a piece of paper: “I owe myself one million dollars.”

Take that piece of paper and put it in a filing cabinet.

Do this every day for the rest of your life.

Fun for the whole family!


28 posted on 10/05/2021 6:59:09 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
And will this lead to FICA increasing in paychecks to

These politicians should cut the benefits that have been given such as food stamps, Welfare checks and maybe even housing.

Right now food stamps, welfare checks and free housing constitute supposedly handouts to folks that are going thru a rough patch in their lives.

We all know that this is not the case anymore since these folks always are in a rough patch perpetually.

The MSM calls these programs as a God Given right which is wrong.

The MSM calls them entitlement programs which nobody is entitled to anything and we all know this little fact.

29 posted on 10/05/2021 7:04:03 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business.)
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To: SamAdams76

Yeah, I meant 70. Actually, the difference between 62 and 70 is actuarially neutral @6% assumed interest rate, with the caveat that collecting prior to full retirement age causes a one-dollar detuction for every two dollars earned.

Every year you delay is equavalent to trading $1.00 today for $1.06 next year, discounted by average life expectancy. It’s a good ROI, assuming that you trust the payer. I do not. It is based on actuarial expectations. If you think you will live a long life, it is a good bet to wait, if you have some kind of medical condition and expect to die “before your time”, the sooner you take it the better.


30 posted on 10/05/2021 7:21:49 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Diana Moon Glampers for Secretary of Education! )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Somebody retired I know is happy as a lark that SS is going up 6%. Never mind that inflation is up 6%, and that their CD’s are paying half of a percent.

I point this out to them, yet it doesn’t seem to register.


31 posted on 10/05/2021 7:33:22 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: cgbg

That’s not the way SS works. All of the money collected for SS (OASDI) thru the payroll taxes are put into non-market, interest bearing T-Bills and deposited into the SSTF. Benefits are paid by cashing in the T-bills thru the General Fund. SS annual benefit costs now exceed revenue meaning that the SSTF must make up the shortfall. SS revenue deficits will continue to 2034 when the SSTF is exhausted. By law, benefits will be paid only based on revenue, which will mean a cut of benefits, estimated to be a 20% cut.

The interest bearing T-Bills in the SSTF are no different fiscally as the T-bills held by China, Japan, the banks, etc. The full faith and credit of the USG are behind them. The SSTF, HI Trust Fund, Federal pension trust fund, etc. are included in the $32 trillion national debt under Intragovernmental Holdings as opposed to the publicly held debt. Bottom line is that the trust fund holdings are liabilities, not mere meaningless pieces of paper.

Every year the GF must redeem SSTF and Medicare Trust fund T-bills to cover shortfalls. By 2026, the Medicare Trust Fund will be exhausted. The sh*t will hit the fan months before that as Congress must reform Medicare before benefits are cut by law. They can reduce benefits or increase taxes or some combination of that.


32 posted on 10/05/2021 7:35:20 AM PDT by kabar
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The full faith and credit of the USG are behind them.

My full faith and credit is behind the million dollars that I owe to myself!
33 posted on 10/05/2021 7:39:22 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: kabar

Further comment—a good scammer creates lots of fancy sounding words to hide the scam.

It is still a scam.


34 posted on 10/05/2021 7:47:17 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: FreeReign
I am retired as well. A 6% increase in my federal pension amounts to a $7,560 a year raise. I also get a minimum SS pension that will also increase around $300. This more than covers any inflationary costs I face.

Remember that retirees don't have the same kinds of living expenses that someone working does. They don't feel the same impact from inflation that a worker with a family experiences. No commute to work, wardrobe expenses, child costs, etc.

35 posted on 10/05/2021 7:58:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Just drive it into bankruptcy even sooner.


36 posted on 10/05/2021 8:04:07 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: cgbg
No, you don't have to pay yourself. But the US taxpayer is on the hook for SS and Medicare costs. 40% of Medicare expenses are paid by the General Fund outside of any revenue that comes in from the payroll tax. And the USG must redeem the Trust Fund T-bills so benefits can be paid. We are bankrupting our children and grandchildren.

Today's workers pay for today's retirees. In 1950 there were 16 workers for every retiree. Now there are less than 3. By 2030 there will be two workers for every retiree. How much can we tax those two workers to pay for SS and Medicare benefits? The average Medicare recipient gets three times more in benefits than they contributed to the system.

37 posted on 10/05/2021 8:06:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Your posts make absolutely no sense.

The deficit and debt are huge and getting larger, the government no longer respects the Constitution and makes up whatever laws it wants.

Your model of reality sounds like a college textbook from the 1960s.

Wake up—the old rules do not apply any longer.

We are deep in scam-land. There are no rules and taxes are irrelevant when the government can go into infinite indebtedness.

The scam will last as long as it does—and then it won’t be there any more—and the old economics textbooks will be toilet paper.


38 posted on 10/05/2021 8:11:19 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg
The scam is that the average voter has allowed the politicians to lie to them about entitlements. Mark Styn once said that, "Americans want European type social welfare benefits, but they don't want to pay European taxes."

SS and Medicare are unsustainable.

39 posted on 10/05/2021 8:17:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cgbg
My posts are factual. I don't understand what you are objecting to. I have provided no models.

There are no rules and taxes are irrelevant when the government can go into infinite indebtedness.

The reality is that we can not go into "infinite indebtedness." There are real world consequences that are undeniable. We are destroying our currency. The dollar is the world's reserve currency, which is why the Federal Reserve can print unending supplies of money. But that won't continue if the dollar loses its status. Then we will be Argentina or the Wiemar Republic.

40 posted on 10/05/2021 8:26:22 AM PDT by kabar
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