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Why Are Red States Going Easy on Biden’s Vaccine Mandate?
Townhall.com ^ | October 4, 2021 | Gavin Wax

Posted on 10/04/2021 4:44:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/04/2021 4:44:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
So, why aren’t Republican leaders, even local ones, raising this as an option?

Because the majority of these redder than red states that have a Republican governor and legislature are controlled by RINOs.

If we could vote out every RINO who must face a primary in 2022 and replace them with fearless patriots, it wouldn't matter what the Dems did and the Republican party would be unstoppable. It's up to us in 2022.

2 posted on 10/04/2021 4:52:36 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: Kaslin
Check your "friends" lists ... we all talk to each other and do not stretch out to the ones that need us.

I just read a Town Hall report about Lt Col Scheller that pretty much threw that in our faces.

... and he's correct !

3 posted on 10/04/2021 4:55:31 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Kaslin

Lobbying money from Pfizer, end of story. Red states aren’t immune from greedy lawmakers who don’t mind having the palms crossed with silver in return for being silent....


4 posted on 10/04/2021 4:55:38 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Kaslin

Remember how, when the Republicans you voted for were campaigning and they all said they “WOULD FIGHT FOR YOU” and then you voted for them and they got the job and had a chance to actually FIGHT FOR YOU, but then they didn’t??

Yeah,that was cool.


5 posted on 10/04/2021 4:58:19 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: americas.best.days...

*exception Ron Desantis


6 posted on 10/04/2021 4:59:10 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: americas.best.days...

That is precisely why I repeatedly continue to point out how worthless the ballot box has come. I know it pisses people off to hear it but it is reality.


7 posted on 10/04/2021 5:00:11 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Kaslin

The Republican wing of the Uniparty is expanding into the state houses. 95% of DC republicans are scurrilous, backstabbing hustlers playing us and the swamp to the fullest to cash in on the greatest amount of money and power. I’m in Kentucky and Frankfort republicans are becoming more like DC swampers all the time. The state Republican Party extends its power down to county level to ensure real conservatism doesn’t infect the state power structure. Our last chance went out the window when Trump traded in MAGA for go along, get along, get rich swamp republican subalterns. The joke’s on Trump as the swampers get richer and richer while Trump loses billions. When MAGA died real conservatives were left in a lurch. The Tea Party type organizations pretty much folded when Trump came along. Now the entire movement is lost and suppressed.


8 posted on 10/04/2021 5:12:17 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Kaslin

Might have something to do with Trump being pro-vax.


9 posted on 10/04/2021 5:13:44 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: hardspunned
When MAGA died real conservatives were left in a lurch. The Tea Party type organizations pretty much folded when Trump came along. Now the entire movement is lost and suppressed.

The 2022 primaries are our last chance to purge as many RINOs as possible. The future of America depends on it.

10 posted on 10/04/2021 5:15:26 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: americas.best.days...

Desantis hammers away. Regularly.


11 posted on 10/04/2021 5:22:34 AM PDT by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
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To: HandBasketHell
No offense, but you’re as ignorant as the author about this.

There has been no pushback against the Biden COVID mandate in these states because the mandate hasn’t even been formally issued yet.

12 posted on 10/04/2021 5:24:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: HandBasketHell

I’ve seen two Trump endorsements this fall. A supporter of Liz Cheney until she wasn’t, RNC RINO hack to replace Cheney. A sometimes democrat, never Trumper, media talking head, Obama/Kerry girl to replace the RINO governor of Arizona. If Trump’s going to endorse someone, he should at least know who these scum candidates the GOP puts in front of him are.


13 posted on 10/04/2021 5:25:50 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: browniexyz
Lobbying money from Pfizer, end of story. . .

It's the beginning of the story. It's the story that real journalists and the opponents of compromised officeholders need to pursue until the Pfizer-graft issue is attached to a politician's name wherever he goes and whatever he says.

The power of demonizing someone by repetition is quite effective, and is appropriately exercised when it's about something he's actually done.

That power is not limited by the resistance of those who don't want to hear, or those who refuse to publish or repeat it. If the story is compelling and important, it wells up in random places over time and spreads. Persistence is all.

All.

14 posted on 10/04/2021 5:26:29 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Alberta's Child
There has been no pushback against the Biden COVID mandate in these states because the mandate hasn’t even been formally issued yet.

Yes, let's wait until the horse is out of the barn before we close the door. If you hadn't noticed, a lot of companies have taken advantage of this to create and enforce vaccine mandates. There are a heck of a lot of folks being fired this week because of this. That is something they can pushback against.

15 posted on 10/04/2021 5:38:29 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Alberta's Child

“There has been no pushback against the Biden COVID mandate in these states because the mandate hasn’t even been formally issued yet.”

No, he’s getting his way through friendly companies who mandate all he wanted and more, and these so-tough states just smile and nod as this overt fascism (centralized power exercised through enterprise) punishes citizens of their states.

At the least they should be undertaking civil rights cases on behalf of these citizens. The blue AGs love to pursue businesses who undertake freedom; on our side, there’s nothing.


16 posted on 10/04/2021 5:41:38 AM PDT by No.6
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To: Alberta's Child
There has been no pushback against the Biden COVID mandate in these states because the mandate hasn’t even been formally issued yet.

And by that time it's too late. Just sayin.

17 posted on 10/04/2021 5:44:35 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Kaslin

So, why aren’t Republican leaders, even local ones, raising this as an option?


18 posted on 10/04/2021 5:49:02 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: No.6; hardspunned

I have problems with the author’s position. Even if the GOP really existed the way we were conned into believing it would go down fighting for its voters, it cannot effectively do anything until Xiden lays down his OSHA card mandating vax. Author doesn’t show he understands how OSHA rules and emergency rules work, and the administrative process OSHA has to follow in order to come up with a rule. Therefore his proposal that the red states need to pass laws negating an unpublished OSHA rule would most likely not withstand constitutional challenge.

In addition, some states federal OSHA enforces private sector workplace safety (e.g. TX). Other states (e.g. NC) the state enforces private sector workplace safety under an OSHA approved state plan that must be at least as effective to federal OSHA. The federales provide $$$ every year to states like NC who enforce OSHA (so the feds don’t have to do that work). Once OSHA passes its mandate, states like NC would have to implement it in its state plan and be approved by OSHA. States like TX are completely outside of OSHA enforcement. Bottom line - states since 1970 have ceded workplace safety to the federal givernment through OSHA. Courts have affirmed this; 10th Amendment out of the window here. At this point, it would be very difficult for a GOP state legislature to be able to come up with effective law that would displace an OSHA rule-making.

The legal challenge most likely will originate from workers who are denied jobs because they refused the vax. Even companies that do not like the new regulation will not fight it. Compliance is cheaper and besides, they are not the protectors of individual freedom.

This is the evil of Xiden, he is making the weakest members (workers) in this game to bear the brunt of feral givernment power - actually taking away a person’s individual liberty, forcing him to make a medical decision by completely discarding “informed consent”, replacing it with legal decision regarding one’s health choice - basically coercion to avoid financial punishment. In a just country, the givernment would have to show it has no other options here given the extreme danger of the disease to all workers that ssuch a choice is necessary and no accommodations can be made for workers who refuse the vax. After 18 months of data that do not show such devastating danger actually exists in the workplace, an emergency rulemaking seems illegitimate on its face.

Unfortunately, the way I have seen the courts stomped on the constitution and damage individual liberty at the expense of givernment, corporate and political party power - a lot of people will be financially suffering in the future.

There’s a lot to complain about the GOPe and Trump’s unintentional exposure of them as part of the problem in our country. However, the author wasted ink here. There may be other things the GOP can do, but one has to wait for the feds to show their hand. The fact that this did not just roll out of OSHA 3 minutes after Xiden announced the workplace mandate shows that OSHA’s lawyers are trying to craft rules that can pass constitutional muster. As I have said elsewhere, this rule has little to do with worker safety.


19 posted on 10/04/2021 5:55:08 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: MachIV

We have a choice—we can vote for one party that takes bribes from Big Pharma, or the other party that takes bribes from Big Pharma.

Celebrate our freedom today!


20 posted on 10/04/2021 5:58:10 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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