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Rand Paul Grills HHS Secretary for Mocking Coronavirus Survivors Refusing Vaccine as ‘Flat Earthers’: ‘Arrogance Coupled with Authoritarianism’
Breitbart ^ | 10.01.2021 | Hannah Bleau

Posted on 10/04/2021 2:42:13 AM PDT by Black Conservative Voice

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Thank you Dr. Paul! You have said exactly what my doctor, my wife's doctor, and our sons pediatrician has said. Natural immunity is real and is deserving of understanding. The dictatorship of this administration needs to stop.
1 posted on 10/04/2021 2:42:13 AM PDT by Black Conservative Voice
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To: Black Conservative Voice

Does anyone have a link to this?

“...an Israeli study involving 2.5 million patients, which found that the vaccinated group was “actually seven times more likely to get infected with COVID than the people who had gotten COVID naturally.”


2 posted on 10/04/2021 2:51:45 AM PDT by deks
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Best part -

“You alone are on high and you’ve made these decisions. A lawyer with no scientific background, no medical degree,” Paul said, describing Becerra’s mentality as “arrogance coupled with an authoritarianism that is unseemly and un-American.”

Paul continued:

You, sir, are the one ignoring the science. The vast preponderance of scientific studies, dozens and dozens, show robust, long-lasting immunity after COVID infection. Even the CDC does not recommend a measles vaccine if you have measles immunity. The same was true for smallpox. But you ignore history and science to shame the flat earthers, as you call them. You should be ashamed of yourself and apologize to the American people for being dishonest about naturally acquired immunity. You want more people to choose vaccination? So do I. You want to lessen vaccine hesitancy? So do I. You want to have that happen? Quit lying to people about naturally acquired immunity. Quit lording it over people, acting as if these people are deplorable and unwashed. Try persuasion instead of government cudgels. Try humility instead of arrogance. Try freedom instead of coercion. Most of all, try understanding there is no more basic medical right than deciding what we inject into our bodies.

However, when asked if he would like to apologize for insulting those people, Becerra refused.

3 posted on 10/04/2021 2:55:42 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Black Conservative Voice

that’s just wrong. Unless someone has an screwed up immune system and doesn’t produce many or any antibodies, someone with naturally acquired levels should be considered as innoculated as anyone else. We’re both in the same boat when it comes to fighting variants that mutated immune escape anyway.


4 posted on 10/04/2021 3:06:46 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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The natural immunity argument is their Achilles heel. The vax pushers know it. That's why they just blatantly deny any exceptions to the vax exist. Come hell or high water they have to get the shot into every arm. They can't get everyone corralled into the death shot fence if there are exceptions to getting the shot. It's not about your health, it's purely demonic, with all the maiming and death of God's creation that goes along with it. These people are pure evil and eventually the truth will appear and they will have no place to hide. A scam like this can only be run for so long before it collapses in on itself. I figure another six months ought to wake most everyone up.
5 posted on 10/04/2021 3:10:28 AM PDT by iontheball
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I think Paul is spot on in his analysis and emphasis. The vaccines are only marginally effective and pale in comparison to the effectiveness of post-infection immunity.

Everyone is going to have to get infected for the natural immunity cure (aka herd immunity) to work. The important thing is to get infected but not sick. That’s all about how much viral load is received at infection. It needs to be enough to trigger anti-body production but not enough to overwhelm the initial macrophage response and cause sickness.

The vaccine is helpful in that it creates antibodies helping to prevent sickness. But it also increases the viral load a person will carry when infected, prior to the antibodies clearing it. Vaccine + natural immunity is the safest path imo -that’s if the vaccine doesn’t harm you. If I had my choice I’d just do natural immunity via a mild sickness then recurring encounters.

Three years of this until it’s over imo.


6 posted on 10/04/2021 3:12:04 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Black Conservative Voice

Becerra is typical of the Democratic Socialists running the country today. From Biden down the the youngest freshman Dem Soc. like AOC they are all talk and no brains.


7 posted on 10/04/2021 3:17:52 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: deks

I used Google and found multiple news reports.


8 posted on 10/04/2021 3:19:57 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: blueplum

Except the spike protein from covid is a killer all by itself.
The vaccine spike protein is not.


9 posted on 10/04/2021 3:21:04 AM PDT by MarMema
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You go for it. I am taking a hard pass on the virus.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/spike-proteins-covid-19-and-vaccines/


10 posted on 10/04/2021 3:29:42 AM PDT by MarMema
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Israeli study links...

Abstract:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

Full text:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf


11 posted on 10/04/2021 4:32:40 AM PDT by deks
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Data Sources for the study...

Anonymized Electronic Medical Records (EMRs) were retrieved from the Maccabi Healthcare Services (MHS) centralized computerized database for the study period of March 1, 2020 to August 14, 2021.

MHS is a 2.5-million-member, state-mandated, non-for-profit, second largest health fund in Israel, which covers 26% of the population and provides a representative sample of the Israeli population.


12 posted on 10/04/2021 4:39:06 AM PDT by deks
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An article that explains the study...

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/312538


13 posted on 10/04/2021 4:40:43 AM PDT by deks
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To: deks

My daughter got the shot when they first came out. She had to get it at the health department.

Her personal doctor told her that she still needs to be careful because she can still get the virus. She told her not to be confident just because she got the shot and to keep wearing her mask and stay out of crowds. She told her she can also have a mild case that she doesn’t know she has and pass it on to others. If she gets around people that have it she still has to get tested. Nothing has changed in her life for the good since she got the shots.

Why take the shot if it doesn’t protect you or other people?


14 posted on 10/04/2021 4:40:47 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dog's think I am)
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To: Justa
Three years of this until it’s over imo.

It will only be over if a majority of Republicans take the House and Senate in 2022 and Trump is re-elected in 2024. Otherwise the totalitarianism will never be over.

It might require the AZ state legislature voting to de-certify to get the other states to gather up their courage look at the ballot fraud in their own states however. And that hinges on AZ showing courage first.

I know you were referring to the pandemic, but unfortunately it's all political agenda now.

15 posted on 10/04/2021 4:41:46 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Black Conservative Voice

16 posted on 10/04/2021 5:02:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: MarMema
Except the spike protein from covid is a killer all by itself. The vaccine spike protein is not.

vaccine spike protein reported deaths: 15,937

This is only short term data. COVID-19 is principally a respiratory illness. The vaccines cause spike protein production throughout the body -- brain, lungs, heart (vascular system), kidneys, liver, bone marrow, lymph nodes, ovaries. The damage done to these systems may only manifest after 2-5 years.

Dr Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA technology, has recognized that the vaccines are cytotoxic.

17 posted on 10/04/2021 5:34:41 AM PDT by nonsporting (communistii delendi sunt)
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Ignorance is the next to worst thing to take actionable legislation or regulation upon.

The worst is willful knowledge of the facts yet profits or power grabs are more important than common sense or rights.

Me thinks it’s the collective hive in DC (and much of the world) banking on the latter.


18 posted on 10/04/2021 5:35:20 AM PDT by USCG SimTech ( )
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It does protect you from the likelihood of getting hospitalized or dying. I am a vaccinate3d person who just tested positive for Covid. My symptoms were similar to a minor cold, runny nose and scratchy throat. I wouldn’t have even gotten tested except my non vaccinated wife got sick and tested positive. My wife got much sicker and had we not taken rapid actions I believe she would have at the least been hospitalized. I am high risk comorbidities, my wife very healthy. That’s the difference...


19 posted on 10/04/2021 6:09:24 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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I have asthma so I’m careful. My doctor only recommended the flu vax and not the covid vax. I’m waiting for the Novavax to be available since it’s a more typical vaccine. So far the tests on it are promising.


20 posted on 10/04/2021 8:34:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dog's think I am)
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