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To: TwelveOfTwenty
I was replying to the comments made by Jefferson Davis about his concern for blacks in the South in 1865 when defeat was certain, and compared them to Hitler's claim in 1945 that he didn't want war in 1939. In both cases they were on the brink of total defeat, and were clearly trying to distance themselves from the consequences of their actions.

Do you have a direct answer for that, or are you going to continue to flood FR with text from book after book?

[woodpusher] I would first note that you failed to provide a source, a date, or identify who said it.

From duckduckgo

Notice I didn't enter his name, only part of the quote.

Your incompetent self still did not give a date for your quote. I first notice that you were too incompetent to read the quote you searched for and verify when it was made.

Below is your search term.

My own convictions as to negro slavery are strong. It has its evils and abuses...We recognize the negro as God and God's Book and God's Laws

You claim a quote from 1865 at a time when "defeat was certain, and compared Hitler's claim in 1945."

This quote that you searched on is from before the civil war.

Try again.

623 posted on 11/10/2021 5:56:56 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher
Thank you for making your point directly rather than forcing me to figure it out by reading passage after passage from other works.

You claim a quote from 1865 at a time when "defeat was certain, and compared Hitler's claim in 1945." This quote that you searched on is from before the civil war.

I'm glad I gave you enough information to validate the quote.

Yes, I know the quote I posted was from 1861. That was my point. He was singing a different song four years later in defeat.

Here they are again.

JD shortly after being elected "My own convictions as to negro slavery are strong. It has its evils and abuses...We recognize the negro as God and God's Book and God's Laws, in nature, tell us to recognize him - our inferior, fitted expressly for servitude...You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be."

JD in 1865 "I hope the negroes' fidelity will be duly rewarded and regret that we are not in a position to aid and protect them. There is, I observe, a controversy which I regret as to allowing negroes to testify in court. From brother Joe [Joseph Davis], many years ago, I derived the opinion that they should be made competent witnesses, the jury judging of their credibility. (Jefferson Davis: Private Letters 1823-1889, selected and edited by Hudson Strode, New York: De Capo Press, 1995, reprint, p. 188)

Now compare this to Hitler. We all know what he was up to in 1939 onward (and before), but when facing total defeat in 1945 he tried to distance himself from his actions by saying it was untrue that he and Germany wanted war in 1939.

This is the only comparison I made between Hitler and Jefferson Davis. I did not intend to pull out the leftist Nazi card as you seemed to think, and I agree with your disgust at how often the left uses that card on anyone they disagree with. Both sides are guilty of that, but that wasn't my point.

Try again.

If you don't see my point by now, then we'll just agree to disagree on this.

624 posted on 11/12/2021 3:49:41 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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