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To: FLT-bird
And many others saw it was not about slavery given the Corwin Amendment,

Which was never ratified, and which as you admitted would NEVER, as in NEVER, have been repealed because the slave holding states would have never voted to repeal it.

given the North still had slaves

And how many slaves in the North did the South rescue?

given how badly federal troops treated slaves in the South

What does that say about how the South treated them, that they saw the North as an improvement?

given the massive racism in the North

From Georgia: "They entered the Presidential contest again in 1860 and succeeded. The prohibition of slavery in the Territories, hostility to it everywhere, the equality of the black and white races".

From Mississippi: "It advocates negro equality, socially and politically".

From Texas: "She (Texas) was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits"

Also from Texas: "They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States."

Another from Texas: "that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."

and given the fact that the EP only freed slaves in areas the federal government did not control.

Of course, it was already illegal in the areas they did control. After the war of abolition, it was illegal everywhere.

Yes I know there were still slaves held illegally in the North. We have human trafficking now, and thanks to the free traitors we're back to using slave labor to get our products cheap. The only difference is that instead of importing the slave labor, we're exporting the plantations.

Quotes from the British press.

Funny how you believe the quotes made from a nation that saw us as "competition" and wanted to knock us down a few pegs, but you disregard all of the quotes to the contrary, including those made by the confederates themselves.

Quotes from Charles Dickens.

Seriously? Maybe we should ask Steven King what he thinks.

411 posted on 10/14/2021 2:35:50 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Which was never ratified, and which as you admitted would NEVER, as in NEVER, have been repealed because the slave holding states would have never voted to repeal it.

Which was never ratified because the original 7 seceding states turned it down. And I did not say the states that still allowed slavery would never vote to repeal it. I said it could never be repealed WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. Meaning they could force the Northern states to offer a generous compensated emancipation scheme as the price for their vote to repeal it.

And how many slaves in the North did the South rescue?

And how is this relevant? There were states that still allowed slavery which remained in the US.

What does that say about how the South treated them, that they saw the North as an improvement?

How does this address the fact that there was widespread mistreatment of Blacks by Federal troops?

"blah blah blah blah I'm just going to spam you with the same crap I've posted 30 times already because I don't have any good answers."

There was massive racism and ill treatment of Blacks in the North. I could post all kinds of examples of the "Black Codes" or even entire states which barred Blacks from living there. No, not slaves. All Blacks.

Of course, it was already illegal in the areas they did control. After the war of abolition, it was illegal everywhere.

This is an outright lie. The US still had slavery. Even areas of the Southern states that were occupied by federal troops still had slavery. There was no "war of abolition" as Northerners went to great pains to say. They did not start the war to free slaves.

Yes I know there were still slaves held illegally in the North.

No, slavery was legal in multiple states that remained in the union. It was legal in Washington DC during the war.

Funny how you believe the quotes made from a nation that saw us as "competition" and wanted to knock us down a few pegs, but you disregard all of the quotes to the contrary, including those made by the confederates themselves.

There were some Brits who felt the way you describe. Britain had a democratic form of government and a long history of free speech so people held all sorts of opinions just as they did in the Southern states and the Northern states. Funny how you ignore what many of the leading political figures and newspapers on both sides were saying - ie that it was about money not slavery.

Seriously? Maybe we should ask Steven King what he thinks.

Dickens was a leading political commentator, not just an author.

415 posted on 10/14/2021 3:44:45 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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