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To: TwelveOfTwenty; BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp; wardaddy; jmacusa; DoodleDawg; FLT-bird
This is what the CW was about.

[image of person identified as "Gordon."]

Here's the story behind that image. It reports he escaped the South to Union soldiers.

There's plenty more where that came from.

Wars are about money and power.

Your image is hotlinked from blogspot and the link for the cited anonymous/uncredited story goes to:

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/scars-of-gordon-whipped-louisiana-slave-1863/

In short, your fantastic, uncredited story is unsourced. It is also quite discredited by a real, award winning history professor.

There's plenty more where that came from.

Of particular note, apparently the "only images that might rival the 'scourged back' are the photographs of Wilson Chinn, 'a branded slave.'" Apparently you just made that claim up and decided to include it because, to you, it sounded good, even though it has no basis in fact. However, you are invited to present the "plenty more where that came from."

The image is especially famous from its appearance in Harper's Weekly in 1863 for its Fourth of July issue, accompanied by three pictures purporting to be of Gordon. The images were "Gordon Under Inspection," "Gordon as He Entered Our Lines," and "Gordon in His Uniform as a U.S. Soldier." The article was "A Typical Negro."

The image of "Gordon Under Inspection" is apparently the image of Peter. A copy at the National Archives identifies the subject as Peter.The image of "Gordon as He Entered Our Lines" is apparently Gordon. Neither is apparently related to Peter Asher, or had help from JPG&R. Artist Vincent Colyer also featured two of the images in his volume, Report of the Services Rendered by the Freed People to the United States Army, in North Carolina. here they were identified as Furney Bryant, the Refugee, and Furnee Bryant, 1st North Carolina Colored Troops.

In the field of real historians, not of the Holiday Inn Express or Wikipedia type, there is Dr. David Silkenat, Ph.D., senior lecturer in American History at the University of Edinburgh, Scotland. His 2019 book Raising the White Flag: How Surrender Defined the American Civil War was a finalist for the Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize, and was named the best Civil War book of 2019 by Civil War Monitor magazine. Books of his in 2011 and 2016 won the North Caroliniana Society Book Award for the best non-fiction published those years. He is chair of chair of the Scottish Association for the Study of America. Dr. Silkenat has also received has also received the William F. Holmes Award from the Southern Historical Association and the Harry E. Pratt Memorial Award from the Illinois State Historical Society.

https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/files/22082113/Silkenat_A_Typical_Negro_Revised_22_June_2014.pdf

In 2014, Dr. Silkenat published a peer-reviewed paper on the Harper's Weekly story, "A Typical Negro."

Citation for published version:Silkenat, D 2014, “A Typical Negro”: Gordon, Peter, Vincent Colyer, and the story behind slavery's most famous photograph', American Nineteenth Century History, vol. 15, no. 2, pp. 169-186.
https://doi.org/10.1080/14664658.2014.939807

“A Typical Negro”: Gordon, Peter, Vincent Colyer, and the Story Behind Slavery’s Most Famous Photograph David Silkenat

University of Edinburgh

Edinburgh Research Explorer

david.silkenat@ed.ac.uk

Abstract

The image of the “scourged back” remains one of the most visually arresting depictions of slavery. Based on a photograph taken in Baton Rouge in April 1863 and later published in Harper’s Weekly, it has become one of the most widely reprinted and recognizable images of American slavery. However, despite the image’s ubiquity, we know relatively little about the image and the man featured in it. Most historians who have examined the image accept the narrative in the accompanying Harper’s article as an accurate account of the subject’s life and the image’s origins. This article argues, however, that there is good evidence to suggest that the accompanying article was largely fabricated and much of what we think we know about “Gordon” may be inaccurate.

The full 28pp article is available at the link.

382 posted on 10/13/2021 8:17:37 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher; Pelham; FLT-bird; DiogenesLamp

You remind me of Nolu Chan....and that is the highest of compliments sir....he and Goetz_von-Berlichingen used to inspire me here in their defense of the South....Nolu was a force to be reckoned with...he single handedly brought down the cruel anti freeper site twenty years ago called klown posse....they deserved it

Btw ..some of those you duel with here....were on that nasty forum ....they would dig into private freeper life to publicly purloin or threaten jobs

They messed with him...bad call...lol

Nolu argued well


385 posted on 10/13/2021 11:36:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..)
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To: woodpusher
If you want to make the case that none of this is true then run with it, but here's more if you're interested.

Whipped mercilessly, worked to the bone in cotton fields and warned police will hunt them down if they escape: Incredible images show the brutal reality of slaves in America on the anniversary of the end of the brutal practice

Images of Whipped Slaves

And if you have any doubt about the confederacy's attitudes towards blacks, here are snippets from their own declarations of secession.

From Georgia: "They entered the Presidential contest again in 1860 and succeeded. The prohibition of slavery in the Territories, hostility to it everywhere, the equality of the black and white races".

From Mississippi: "It advocates negro equality, socially and politically".

From Texas: "She (Texas) was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits"

Also from Texas: "They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States."

Another from Texas: "that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."

392 posted on 10/14/2021 4:16:24 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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