Let’s compare to the United States - the US has about 13 times Australia’s population (328 million versus 25 million).
According to what I find on the internet (and I’m not going to check this in detail unless somebody seriously tells me its wrong), the official death tool from COVID in the US is about 679,000 people.
1/13th of that number is 52,000 more or less. In other words is Australia’s death rate was the same as that of the United States, we’d have lost 52,000 people at this point.
The actual number is currently 1,178 - America per capita has lost 44 times more people than Australia.
To answer your question - about 0.005% of Australians have died of COVID versus about 0.2% of Americans.
Predicting what the numbers would have been if things had been done differently is always, in part, a guessing game. But I honestly don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that what has been done in Australia has saved a lot of lives from COVID.
I think we needed to do some of it. But I don’t believe they needed to do anywhere near all of it.
Comparisons within Australia - it’s complicated because part of the reason Victoria and NSW have the most restrictions is that they have had by far the biggest outbreaks. But I don’t think anybody could sensibly argue the outbreaks were caused by the restrictions. In the case of Victoria our worst outbreak happened because of a single known failure in hotel quarantine - we know that. In NSW, their government had very low restrictions in place before their outbreak and tried very hard not to introduce restrictions before finally reaching what I do regard as a panicked stage - but they did try to avoid it to begin with.
“The actual number is currently 1,178 - America per capita has lost 44 times more people than Australia.”
You’re far too trusting of the gov’t. All those numbers are cooked. Research the flat-lining of flu cases in 20-21. Research the up-cycling of the PCR test - to hypersensitive levels. Research dying with Covid vs. of Covid. Look at the current low level of hospital bed use in the US on the CDC site.
It’s a bad virus, but only slightly worse than past flu seasons.
The same tactics could have been used in any recent flu season. Just show the dying flu victims in hospitals (90,000 in the US in 2018), pump the fear porn, prohibit effective trratment, and voila, a pandemic. Let’s lock’er down and vaccinate everyone.
Thanks...you said “US is about 679,000 people” (covid deaths)
Well...THAT’S where it gets tricky...US had basically NO flu deaths, and the payments for covid hospitalization are incentivizing medical industry...and killing people. My 94 yr old mother in law died in Oct 2020. They said she had Covid....yeah, right. She had several other problems.... At .005% wonder what your flu and other deaths have been. Locker down for .005% seems outrageous. Not one of us gets out of here alive.
I think Australia actually has a legit death count
We do not....
I am friendly with a managing nurse at one of Nashville top three hospitals
They are paid 14,000 per Covid death and 42,000 for Covid dialysis patients and so on from the feds who pass funds down to the states
The hospital tests every deaths for Covid and if u test positive regardless of actual cause Covid is listed to get the money
She does this for a living ...precisely
Our death rate is actually some truthseekers claim about one tenth of the total
So we are not overrun with this many deaths
Another way to tell is has our aggregated death rate and gross numbers each spiked accordingly
No they have not
It’s inflated for politics because our leftist govt like yours wishes to use Covid to bolster fedzilla power
Vax mandates and shutdowns
Americans do not respond to govt control as easy as Aussies
Not sure why honestly....your founding history would have indicated more throw off the yoke culture to me
I haven’t been there in almost 40 years....I can tell a nation that used to be hyper masculine no longer is
It’s weird to watch
When I was there men were rowdy and fought easy and women were kind of a tier down
Now women are big in power there and you guys have hipsters too and lost your guns in a big way
It’s just unnerving a bit...to witness..feel free to tell me I’m full of shit
I did well with women there then...they cussed like men but would tell me ...as a southerner ...the opposite of your southerners ...in Aussie northern Australia culture is more like southern. USA culture
Anyhow Aussie women loved I was soft and polite and non agggressive to them
Aussie men were brusque to women....this is early 80s
Sorry to ramble....I love Aussies
Our cousins around the world pretty much
You know naturalman1975, you’re a great guy but you sure are willing to let your economy go down the drain with lock-downs and attempts to get down to zero cases of the virus, which is ridiculous. It appears too many Aussies are like the frog in the boiling pot, finding out too late that their goose (pardon the switch from frogs to geese) is cooked.
Aussies have let their guns be confiscated by their gov’t, and are at the total mercy of their gov’t mandates on any subject. Australia has gone too far down the socialist road to easily recover from this path and are unarmed to boot. We could go down the same path if our citizens don’t wise up fast. The results of the mid-term elections should show us what trajectory we are on.
You are assuming the reported deaths from China virus here in America are accurate. I don’t even think they are close to that.
How does one have faith in a test which is shown to be over 80% inaccurate?
The numbers reported here are high because they need to be high in order to spread the fear porn among the easily duped.
College and pro football been going on for a month now. Almost ZERO fans in packed stadiums wearing masks. Where are the skyrocketing new cases of the “extremely contagious” delta varient? Why is the media almost totally silent about these huge crowds inside the stadiums?
It’s all pure be.