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To: naturalman1975
"I'm not sure where you've got your '94%' figure, but I've no reason to doubt it....And they infected people in their households. Basically now if anybody in a household gets it, everybody is likely to, so in the end yes, lots of the cases are in households, and because by this stage we are locked down again that's pretty much all likely to be until we reopen again."

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/11/24/nation/what-does-it-mean-when-youve-got-covid-19-you-dont-know-where-or-how/?p1=Article_Feed_ContentQuery, another study found that in household transmissions individuals with symptoms were more than 25 times more likely to infect household members than those without symptoms at the time (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102; https://www.thecollegefix.com/bulletin-board/university-researchers-find-almost-no-covid-19-transmission-without-symptoms-in-households/) And the rate of transmission that has occurred outdoors seems to be below 1 percent and may be below 0.1 percent. (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html)

Closing parks, forest trails, beaches etc. and exhorting "shelter in place" and requiring masking whenever outside is not only unwarranted but fostered/fosters lack of exercise and increased weight, and often contributes to being hypertensive[8] and having high cholesterol, all of which are primary factors in Covid-19 deaths,[9] besides having compromised immune systems as with the aged, especially in seclusion. Also, a NIH study of 2015 found that being inside with increased CO2 levels significantly degraded cognitive function.[10]

"A person from that apartment block went to to the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground), Melbourne's major sporting stadium where he watched a football match with about 80,000 people - as I say, this was at a time when we pretty open so they were allowing crowd at football matches. From there, teachers at two different schools (one of which is literally next door to the school I teach at) started infecting students and staff in their school."

I see this case of tracking of "patient zeros" to be dubious in its conclusions.

195 posted on 09/24/2021 7:14:26 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/11/24/nation/what-does-it-mean-when-youve-got-covid-19-you-dont-know-where-or-how/?p1=Article_Feed_ContentQuery

I can't read the article - it's behind a paywall from my perspective, but it looks nearly a year old and I can't see any sign it relates to the Australian context. I suspect transmission figures are very different in the US from Australia because the US has had so many more cases.

I see this case of tracking of "patient zeros" to be dubious in its conclusions.

I don't. Our numbers are low enough here that I see no reason to doubt they can do this. They don't always succeed but the traces I've seen make complete sense to me.

196 posted on 09/24/2021 10:37:21 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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