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So what is going on in Australia? View from an Australian Freeper
22nd September 2021 | Me

Posted on 09/21/2021 8:47:31 PM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: naturalman1975

You talk as if this is reasonable and will end.


21 posted on 09/21/2021 9:11:09 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: naturalman1975

It all comes down to a logical succession of events which made it easy to take over an entire country and lockdown her defenseless people. Gun confiscation > virus > masks > riots > lockdowns > mandates including forced jabs, and so on. And in the USA the same pattern except we still have 2A. Democrats and their MSM sycophants even tried to get us to buy 2-3 year old garage door pulls as NEW “nooses” and now they’ve got another whopper. I saw a video about their claim Border Patrol agents used “whips” on illegal aliens and them being slammed for it, and you can check it out in crawler link top of page at Whatfinger News. Horse reins are a known thing too and again are corrupted by the left via a deceptive picture to suit their agenda. Now that the male union members are on the front line Aussie notsee ‘cops’ are realizing they can’t just beat up 70 year old women any more.


22 posted on 09/21/2021 9:11:47 PM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: PGR88

The only two times I’ve seen the faux cops back down there are 1) the truckers blocking the roads, and 2) the male union members who just got ‘police’[sic] to back their cars up out of there quickly. If Aussies still had their gun rights this would have been over before it really started.


23 posted on 09/21/2021 9:13:41 PM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: ifinnegan

Yes, I’m confident it will end.

I have faith in the robustness of the protections that do exist in Australia law, the constitution, and common law.

At the moment, we have states of emergencies declared in various states. If that wasn’t, the state governments wouldn’t be able to be doing what they are doing either. When the pandemic ends, those states of emergencies will be lifted.

If that doesn’t happen, then the Federal Government would have the power intervene. So would the courts.


24 posted on 09/21/2021 9:16:15 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you for your local insights.

As an aside, i am always amazed and pleasantly surprised at the reach and scope of Free Republic.


25 posted on 09/21/2021 9:16:23 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. STILL)
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To: HighSierra5

This is a real virus but it is not lethal on it’s own. It has replaced fly as what ‘takes people out’ who are already ill or old, or both. And leftists have taken advantage of that for a global power grab. The marches in France and Australia are great, but if folks elsewhere had 2A rights it wouldn’t have gotten this far. They are going slower in America because they know once that line is crossed the **** is on. Lots of folks here aren’t going into those camps they are building (like in Washington State, where they are advertising for guards).


26 posted on 09/21/2021 9:16:46 PM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you. A question...what percent of population has died from Covid?...and how does that compare to freer states/provinces?


27 posted on 09/21/2021 9:16:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolyution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: naturalman1975

Thank-you. Nothing better than getting it from the horse’s moth.


29 posted on 09/21/2021 9:17:12 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The difference between animals and humans: animals would never let the dumbest of the herd lead them)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Which is why I’m ‘eating right’ and ‘working out’ and praying I stay healthy. And if you do need surgery then talk to your doctor about ‘banking’ your own blood ahead of time. We can’t trust the blood supply any more either (’vaccine’ contaminated).


30 posted on 09/21/2021 9:18:38 PM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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To: naturalman1975

Watch what’s about to happen at the Shrine of Remembrance they are lining up the police are right now.

https://facebook.com/100004608812201/videos/573364103817746/


31 posted on 09/21/2021 9:18:56 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODYS BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: naturalman1975

“When the pandemic ends,”

That may take war


32 posted on 09/21/2021 9:19:27 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolyution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: naturalman1975

Bookmark


33 posted on 09/21/2021 9:23:35 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: naturalman1975

Very interesting about the construction unions. What are people doing for money since they can’t work? Is there an amnesty on paying rents, bills, utilities etc? How are people managing to survive?


34 posted on 09/21/2021 9:26:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: naturalman1975

how is the freedom of movement in Victoria?

Do they restrict movement between metro Melbourne and areas outside of the metro area?

Do they lock down the entire state or just the region with new cases?


35 posted on 09/21/2021 9:26:48 PM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: Nextrush

This looks ominous.

Do Aussie cops carry guns?


36 posted on 09/21/2021 9:29:42 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: goodnesswins

Let’s compare to the United States - the US has about 13 times Australia’s population (328 million versus 25 million).

According to what I find on the internet (and I’m not going to check this in detail unless somebody seriously tells me its wrong), the official death tool from COVID in the US is about 679,000 people.

1/13th of that number is 52,000 more or less. In other words is Australia’s death rate was the same as that of the United States, we’d have lost 52,000 people at this point.

The actual number is currently 1,178 - America per capita has lost 44 times more people than Australia.

To answer your question - about 0.005% of Australians have died of COVID versus about 0.2% of Americans.

Predicting what the numbers would have been if things had been done differently is always, in part, a guessing game. But I honestly don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that what has been done in Australia has saved a lot of lives from COVID.

I think we needed to do some of it. But I don’t believe they needed to do anywhere near all of it.

Comparisons within Australia - it’s complicated because part of the reason Victoria and NSW have the most restrictions is that they have had by far the biggest outbreaks. But I don’t think anybody could sensibly argue the outbreaks were caused by the restrictions. In the case of Victoria our worst outbreak happened because of a single known failure in hotel quarantine - we know that. In NSW, their government had very low restrictions in place before their outbreak and tried very hard not to introduce restrictions before finally reaching what I do regard as a panicked stage - but they did try to avoid it to begin with.


37 posted on 09/21/2021 9:29:50 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

......”What this means is that is happening in Australia has been very STATE specific”.....

Interesting to know and good writing so we can better understand what’s really going on in Australia.

Thanks for posting.


38 posted on 09/21/2021 9:33:43 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: DesertRhino

There were a bunch of amnesties on various bills and things to begin with, but most of those have now ended.

Basically people are surviving on special payments. People who can’t work because of COVID restrictions can get $750 a week from the Federal government (smaller amounts if they’ve only lost some hours). State governments also provide various levels of support - in Victoria, businesses that can’t operate are entitled to various payments.

It’s not enough in all cases but a lot of people can manage. A lot of businesses have closed though, and even more probably will when it’s all over - many are probably no longer viable long term but are being kept alive in a zombie form by government support and won’t recover.


39 posted on 09/21/2021 9:34:07 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: miserare

Yes, Australian police are generally armed.

But they are actually pretty well trained to avoid using them compared to some places.

If any of them lose it though, yeah, it could go very bad very quickly.


40 posted on 09/21/2021 9:35:05 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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