Posted on 09/21/2021 8:47:31 PM PDT by naturalman1975
Read the original post I want. I explain what is actually going on here. That was the point.
You are apparently swallowing whole a lot of misinformation and being manipulated.
“You are apparently swallowing whole a lot of misinformation and being manipulated.”
Nice try. You re-read your own post again. Notice all of the equivocations on your part.
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Yes, we're having some demonstrations here - but they are nothing compared to what happens far more often in America.
There are reasons for them - as I've said, there are some problems here.
No, most of the videos you see aren't illusions - but voiceovers that get added to them often severely distort the truth. People who attacked police officers get described as 'just shopping'. Police who are chasing down people who pelted them with bottles, get described as 'mobile vaccination squads who hunt down Australians and forcibly inject them.' Far left socialist trade unionists are suddenly described as freedom fighters - it's amazing how many people on FR suddenly seem to love the communists of Australia's Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (CMFEU - I know that should have two Ms but it doesn't) - those are the people currently protesting in Melbourne...
The spin put on video by the reports that accompany them can be very misleading.
We have real problems here. I know what they are. I don't think you have a clue.
It’s called honesty.
Not everything is black and white.
The first fact to consider is that the City States are not America. By disavowing federal law, they have effectively seceded from the Union.
Australia has 1178 deaths from Covid. Lockdown seems like an extreme response for so few deaths. The US has so many deaths because of how Covid deaths are measured. Everyone who tests positive and dies is a Covid death whether they die of a heart attack, stroke, cancer, etc. You don’t die FROM Covid, you die WITH Covid.
You cannot stop Covid by locking down. Everyone will eventually get it. Countries like Sweden just accepted that.
But how many deaths would we have had if nothing had been done. That’s the big question. Nobody really knows the answer.
And we count the deaths pretty much the same way.
Just as the China virus hit the world my son came back to Florida after working in Sydney for a year.
He says he is grateful for getting back to sanity and Florida just in time.
Here we have Governor Desantis who has allowed us to make our own decisions thankfully.
Thanks for posting, good job.
You aren’t stopping Covid. You are postponing it. Covid is a weaponized virus. It will get to everyone. I am immunized, I practice social distancing and I contracted Delta. It’s that contagious.
Remember, the Delta variant hit here in June. Warm weather made it worse. Covid is not causing the lockdowns. The government is doing that.
Good luck...
You’re right. However people from other countries have different cultures and values even if they speak english.
Thanks for the info and insight!
We actually do understand that. Even the people making the lockdown decisions understand it. The assumption is that eventually nearly all Australians will be infected. But vaccination does seem to give a great deal of protection against serious illness from COVID. It dramatically lowers the death rate.
For various reasons, Australia's vaccination rollout has been much slower than it should have been - we're still at less than 50% of adults having had two vaccine doses. That's a long way behind other similar countries. And it is mostly down to supply issues - not reluctance to be vaccinated. On current numbers, we should reach 70% in about a month, and 80% in early November. At those points, it's considered safer to open up even if lots of people wind up infected after that.
Now, as I've said, I don't support most of the lockdowns. And I do think we should be pretty much opened up already - but even the people who are making the lockdown decisions, even paranoids like Daniel Andrews, have pretty much accepted the reality we have to open up more at 70% and then even more at 80%. There's still some question as to whether they'll be willing to accept we might never get much higher than that (polling and studies here suggest 80% of adults are likely to agree to be vaccinated, but not much more than that) and what they will do then - hopefully they will accept reality, but even if they don't it will be much better than things are now, and we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Even getting these paranoids to this stage has taken huge effort.
When I was at Woomera I worked hand-in-hand with the RAA and RAAF. In fact, my rating officer was RAAF. WE only had one RAN but I didn’t work with him. Great guy, though!
The skill, professionalism and attitude of the typical Australian soldier/sailor/airman has my endearing respect. And they’re great friends and some of the funnest people I’ve ever met.
Salutes to you, mate!
I will say this. I don’t think COVID is ever going away. Not in Oz, not in the USA.
I do believe it will get less deadly as medical science figures out ways to treat it, as long as politics doesn’t get the way. Even so, eventually, positive treatments will prevail, even if it’s a totally new class of drugs or horse paste.
If Australians are trying to get to that point—where positive treatment “cures” the infection so few will die—then that is good.
If however, this disease is going to swing from one variant to another and still kill people, and no effective cure is found, then no amount of quarantine or lockdown will have an effect UNLESS that lockdown is permanent, which would be absurd, no?
That effect appears to be both temporary and highly dependent on the variant. Add to that the diminishing returns of booster shots and it appears that the vaccine buys you about six months.
Now that's not a bad thing, provided you get covid during that six month period that your risk is slightly attenuated and acquire longer lasting immunity.
Are the police federal or provincial or what? Clearly, there is a problem with the culture (for lack of a better word) of the police.
This is what a federal police force looks like folks. It’s what our FBI looks like in the USA, corrupt as hell leadership in pursue of violence for political ends.
COMPROMISED AT THE HIGHEST OF LEVELS - AUSTRALIA
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I have a huge respect for American servicemen as well. As far as I’m concerned, we’re at least cousins and it’s nice to work with professionals. I didn’t have as much contact with USN as some others but I had a bit over the years.
I’m no Doctor and I don’t pretend to be. But I do have friends who are, and also some in medical science, who I trust and they say the aim here is to get COVID to the stage, that it’s basically just something similar in terms of risk to the seasonal flus we get each year. And they think that’s achieveable by next year - provided that, yes, we don’t get a worse variant. That’s the wild card - as you quite rightly point out. But for the moment, they are proceeding on the basis that won’t happen because if it does, everything will have to be rethought anyway. And, yes, at that point, I definitely hope even the paranoids will accept reality.
I’m not 100% certain if they are talking about reaching that level of risk with or without treatment. I do know at least one of them is part of the team working on things like that. He was also on the team that was developing our own vaccine last year - it was proving promising, but unfortunately it also turned out to create false positives on HIV tests so they pulled the plug - with other promising vaccine candidates having emerged by then, there didn’t seem any point in proceeding with a vaccine that would make it harder to protect people against HIV in the future by muddying testing.
Your low population density and climate largely is responsible for this, and likely your case fatality rate of 1.3 (slightly higher than Sweden, Switzerland, etc.) would be the same without much restrictions.
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