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In Tense Hearing, Kyle Rittenhouse Defense Convinces Judge to Throw Out Significant Portions of the Goverment’s Case (FBI Surveillance)
Law and Crime via MSN ^ | 09 17 2021 | Colin Kalmbacher

Posted on 09/17/2021 7:46:00 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

It was an all-but ugly day in court for the prosecutors hoping to put Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse behind bars on six counts, including murder. During a lengthy evidentiary hearing, the defense scored victory after victory while the government was increasingly frustrated at the judge’s rulings in favor of the defendant.

Assistant District Attorney Thomas C. Binger argued that the defendant is a “teenage vigilante” — and a “violent vigilante” at that. But that was precisely the problem with the state’s evidence, according to Kenosha County Judge Bruce Schroeder.

The government quickly lost two motions to introduce two pieces of evidence outright. The first piece of evidence showed that Rittenhouse attacked a woman who was involved in an altercation with his sister in June 2020. The second showed that Rittenhouse has various affiliations with the far-right Proud Boys organization.

In both instances, the judge ruled that the government’s offered evidence would be far more prejudicial than it was worth.

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But one new piece of evidence discussed at the hearing may prove to be instrumental for the state’s case against the 18-year-old. Near the end of the hearing, amidst a detailed back-and-forth discussion about who began the chase that turned deadly on the night in question, the government revealed they have a video from an “FBI” aircraft that shows Rittenhouse initiating hostilities against Joseph Rosenbaum. The defense said they hadn’t seen that evidence before.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: antia; antifa; banglist; bruceschroeder; fbi; josephrosenbaum; kenosha; kenoshacounty; klyerittenhouse; kylerittenhouse; proudboys; rittenhouse; selfdefense; thomascbinger; wisconsin
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FBI had a fixed-wing aircraft hovering above Kenosha. They allegedly have infra-red footage of Kyle Rittenhouse initiating the confrontation with Joseph Rosenbaum.

It looks like the FBI suspected there might be trouble and was ready to record the events.

1 posted on 09/17/2021 7:46:00 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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2 posted on 09/17/2021 7:48:22 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Significant Portions

Wow, all the judge said was the couldn't try to him to Proud Boys simply by association. Their case must be very weak.
3 posted on 09/17/2021 7:51:00 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths. )
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To: yesthatjallen

I’d think it would be very difficult to make a clear determination from infrared footage.


4 posted on 09/17/2021 7:52:36 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

It will be interesting to see how good the footage they release is,

It would be interesting to see how many other cases in how many other cities they have used this footage in, as I expect the answer is none.

If the answer is none, why is that ?


5 posted on 09/17/2021 7:57:57 PM PDT by algore ( )
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To: algore

by this, I meant drone footage, cause you know they have it/


6 posted on 09/17/2021 7:58:28 PM PDT by algore ( )
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To: yesthatjallen

Withholding evidence from the defense is not a good thing

Hope this is an honest judge


7 posted on 09/17/2021 8:00:30 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Overhead infra red footage versus cell phone photography from yards away.

Yep, weak case.


8 posted on 09/17/2021 8:04:25 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: yesthatjallen

I think every decision by the judge is sound.


9 posted on 09/17/2021 8:04:59 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: yesthatjallen

Or they just took IR imagery from Afghanistan or somewhere and told the judge it was whomever. How do you ID people using IR? All you can see is a heat signature!


10 posted on 09/17/2021 8:08:37 PM PDT by gr8eman (When you're bought and paid for by commies...you're a commie!)
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The defense said they hadn’t seen that evidence before.

I don't think that prosecutors can withhold evidence like this from the defense, at least in a US court.

Move the trial to anywhere in China and the prosecutors don't even need evidence, just a word from the CCP.

11 posted on 09/17/2021 8:10:57 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Bullcrap. That is the FBI **characterization** of the event. Rittenhouse stopped him from pushing that flaming dumpster into the gas station and put it out with a fire extinguisher. In the twisted minds of the FBI traitors, that is Rittenhouse “initiating” a confrontation.


12 posted on 09/17/2021 8:12:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: yesthatjallen

The FBI withholding evidence… again.


13 posted on 09/17/2021 8:12:31 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Defense counsel for Rittenhouse said they were unaware of the FBI aerial surveillance video...isn’t the prosecution required to turn over all the evidence collected?

I wonder what else are holding on to?


14 posted on 09/17/2021 8:13:27 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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I thought by law the prosecution had to give all evidence to the defense.


15 posted on 09/17/2021 8:14:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: algore

This would be the same government that used drone surveillance in Afghanistan to murder 10 civilians, 7 of them children.


16 posted on 09/17/2021 8:17:15 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Kenosha went up in flames.

Was one arsonist arrested?

And what right did the FBI have to be doing this?

And, note the language? “Convinces judge”. Not judge rules or judge decides. No it must be some sort of manipulation of the judge.

And, I doubt there is any evidence that shows what this article claims without any evidence.


17 posted on 09/17/2021 8:18:26 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: yesthatjallen

TRUST THE FBI!


18 posted on 09/17/2021 8:18:42 PM PDT by Revel
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"I thought by law the prosecution had to give all evidence to the defense."

Ahhh, I remember those days! Good times.

19 posted on 09/17/2021 8:21:49 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled" (Matthew 5:6).)
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“I thought by law the prosecution had to give all evidence to the defense.”

Exactly what is happening.


20 posted on 09/17/2021 8:23:53 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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