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Doctors in Oregon and Washington cast some doubt on New York Times breakthrough case report
KPTV ^ | September 10, 2021 | Kptv

Posted on 09/11/2021 12:59:57 PM PDT by NoLibZone

PORTLAND, Ore. (KPTV) - A recent report featured prominently in The New York Times suggested breakthrough infections of COVID-19 are much more rare than current statistics show.

The Times report stated the odds of a fully vaccinated person contracting COVID-19 on a given day are 1 in 5,000, citing statistics from King County, WA and other metro areas around the country.

Dr. Scott Lindquist, Washington's State Epidemiologist cast some doubt on the reliability of the Times' calculations.

"I think those are numbers that are manipulated that don't take into the context of everyone who's asymptomatic," said Lindquist.

OHA’s most recent update on COVID-19 breakthrough cases, released Thursday, found that 80.7% of the 13,798 reported COVID-19 cases between August 29 and September 4 occurred in people who were unvaccinated.

There were 2,657 breakthrough cases, accounting for 19.3% of the week’s cases.

(Excerpt) Read more at kptv.com ...


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“…accounting for 19.3% of the week’s cases.”
1 posted on 09/11/2021 12:59:57 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Breakthrough what crazy Leftist started calling it that ,LOL


2 posted on 09/11/2021 1:04:28 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: NoLibZone
Dr. Scott Lindquist, Washington's State Epidemiologist
I wouldn't trust this guy to take my temperature.
3 posted on 09/11/2021 1:08:40 PM PDT by dainbramaged (I've got a hat, a coat and a gun. That's it. )
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I wouldn’t trust this guy to take my temperature.
= = =

Oral or rectal?

I think he specializes on rectal.


4 posted on 09/11/2021 1:14:09 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: NoLibZone
13,798 reported COVID-19 cases between August 29 and September 4

Total population of the US 372,640,000

And for this we are suppose to throw away all legal and medical safety protections and fundamentally change our legal/economic system by Executive Order?

5 posted on 09/11/2021 1:15:30 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; 1malumprohibitum; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
6 posted on 09/11/2021 1:18:03 PM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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United States of America (USA) population - CountryMetershttps://countrymeters.info › United_States_of_America...

The current population of United States of America (USA) is 334259855 as of Saturday, September 11, 2021


8 posted on 09/11/2021 1:29:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( In your private, business, social and whatever life!: "Always, ask Cui Bono?"!)
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United States of America (USA) population - CountryMetershttps://countrymeters.info › United_States_of_America...

The current population of United States of America (USA) is 334259855 as of Saturday, September 11, 2021


9 posted on 09/11/2021 1:29:21 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( In your private, business, social and whatever life!: "Always, ask Cui Bono?"!)
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To: NoLibZone
The Times report stated the odds of a fully vaccinated person contracting COVID-19 on a given day are 1 in 5,000, citing statistics

So would would then be the odds of contracting it over the course of, say, one full year?

Regards,

10 posted on 09/11/2021 1:30:38 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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So they are 1 in 10 for a 500-day period?

But the trend is ramping up in frequency and of course contracting Covid is often the least deadly of potential outcomes from the jab...


11 posted on 09/11/2021 1:37:28 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Scrambler Bob
I think he specializes on rectal.
"That thing better have numbers on it or you're a dead man!"
12 posted on 09/11/2021 1:44:53 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: NoLibZone

How do they know peeps got the ‘Rona if they are Asymptomatic?

Asking for a FRiend....


13 posted on 09/11/2021 1:51:47 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: NoLibZone

Wife is a nurse, and has a patient that’s supposedly fully vaxxed, AND, this is supposedly the 2nd time he’s had it. With symptoms, and “confirmed tests”. (No word on the PCR counts on these tests though).


14 posted on 09/11/2021 2:01:07 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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"I think he specializes on rectal."

Judging by the extreme flatulence spewed by the obscure dr, you are correct.

15 posted on 09/11/2021 2:26:50 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Derelict at Large)
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To: alexander_busek
So would would then be the odds of contracting it over the course of, say, one full year?

Assuming the chances of getting it (or not) each day is independent of any other day, you have to kind of turn the problem around.

What are the chances you don't get it today (vaxxed, per their claim) 4999/5000 or 99.98%.

What are the chances you don't get it tomorrow? The same 99.98% because we're assuming each day is independent of any others.

What are the chances at the end of say two days that you don't have it? Well, to achieve that you'd have to not get it the first day, and not get it the second. So you'd have to be in that 99.98% the first day, and the 99.98% the second. The chances of that are 0.9998 * 0.9998 or 0.9996, or 99.96%.

Chances of not having it after 3 days 0.9998 * 0.9998 * 0.9998 or 0.9994 which is 99.94%.

You see the formula here: in order to get to the end of any period of N days you have to get through each day at some likelihood of not getting it. So it becomes 0.9998 raised to the power N where N is the number of days.

So after 365 days your chances of not having gotten it are still 92.96%, meaning there's just over a 7% chance you would get it.

So, if their numbers are right (*), and a vaxxed persons' chance of getting covid in any one day is 1 in 5000, then there's only a 7% chance they'd get it in any one year. Of course something like 80% of the people that get it don't even know they have it. So there's really only about a 1 in 100 chance a vaxxed person would even know they had covid in any given year.

For that they are waging a Nazi-esque war on the un-vaccinated?


* Note, I find the "1 in 5000" number more than a little suspicious. It is a nice round number. Mother nature rarely works in such convenient ways. Usually things are messy. This sounds more like a SWAG.

16 posted on 09/11/2021 2:27:18 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: NoLibZone

Everyone I know that got sick or hospitalized with Covid were FULLY vaccinated!


17 posted on 09/11/2021 2:48:06 PM PDT by RobertoinAL
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To: dainbramaged

COVID is moving north as fall approaches. I suspect the Sunbelt states got hit because people I’m Florida, Texas, Arizona, and so forth retreat indoors to air conditioned spaces. They are emerging from those places and fresh air will return them to relative health. Meanwhile dropping temperatures will reverse the situation in the north. The virus doesn’t give a rip about what we do with masking and social distancing. You’re most likely to contract COVID at home from a family member.


18 posted on 09/11/2021 3:00:16 PM PDT by Tallguy (Press '2' to have your name removed from our call list...)
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To: NoLibZone
Interim Estimates of COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Against COVID-19–Associated Emergency Department or Urgent Care Clinic Encounters and Hospitalizations Among Adults During SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant Predominance — Nine States, June–August 2021

See Table on page 2. One vaccine is 95% effective at preventing hospitalizations from the Delta variant, another is 80% effective and the third vaccine is 60% effective.

19 posted on 09/11/2021 3:03:24 PM PDT by Sooth2222 (“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.” ("Every nation has the government it deserves.”) )
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To: MNJohnnie

The 13,798 cases (8/29-9/4) were for Oregon only (pop. ~4,200,000)....something like 825,000 cases nationwide for that time period.

https://govstatus.egov.com/OR-OHA-COVID-19

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/OR


20 posted on 09/11/2021 3:04:03 PM PDT by Drago
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