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Gov. Greg Abbott slams Biden administration over vaccine mandate for employers
KXAN ^ | 9/9/21 | Joshua Fechter

Posted on 09/09/2021 5:44:41 PM PDT by Bearshouse

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To: Bearshouse

I have participated in at least a dozen letting go of employees as a manager for a number of companies in addition to my own LLCs. It was as simple as your services are no longer needed for the current “needs of the business” thank you for your service. Feel free to use your tenure with us as a reference, and your eligible for further employment should the needs of the business change.

Dell computers was FAMOUS for letting go entire teams of sales guys every time there was even a hint of a slow down in sales. They then would hire an army of temps to pick up the slack for three months till their contacts ran out and wash rinse repeat. They eventually went to nearly 100% temps as sales dept so they could just let the then one month contracts sunset without having to worry about an audit for eeoc at all.

I personally don’t know a single business owner in Texas who has lost a needs of the business staffing reduction in an audit not one.


41 posted on 09/09/2021 6:29:37 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Bayard

“There were no Vaccines in 1905”

I was wondering about that...


42 posted on 09/09/2021 6:29:58 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Buttons12

If the vaxed can still get and shed covid

They should test weekly too shouldn’t they?


43 posted on 09/09/2021 6:30:03 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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To: BobL
That ruling says "it is for the legislature" to deterine. It says nothing about the executive of the State having any power.
44 posted on 09/09/2021 6:30:40 PM PDT by SkiKnee
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To: Bearshouse

How can the resident be pro women’s rights not to interfere with their bodies to save babies’ lives while at the same time be against individual rights not to have an unwanted Covid vaccination? Where is the science or logic in taking these contradictory positions?

What happened to “My body, my choice!”?

The USSC ruling for the resident in this vaccine case should negate Roe v Wade.


45 posted on 09/09/2021 6:31:02 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: SeekAndFind

??? They should be _paying us_ to test us as every bit of data they glean from we the conscripted taxpayers goes into the mix for perfecting the vaccine. ...To make it more effective in defeating Covid, it is hoped.


46 posted on 09/09/2021 6:31:02 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SkiKnee

“That ruling says “it is for the legislature” to deterine. It says nothing about the executive of the State having any power.”

...much less the executive of the country.


47 posted on 09/09/2021 6:31:53 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL
That ruling says "it is for the legislature" to determine. It says nothing about the executive of the State having any power.
48 posted on 09/09/2021 6:32:17 PM PDT by SkiKnee
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To: SkiKnee

Sorry for the double-post.


49 posted on 09/09/2021 6:33:22 PM PDT by SkiKnee
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To: SeekAndFind
Ok, next question... WHO PAYS for the testing? Will it be federally subsidized like the vaccine, or will employees have to pay? How much will it cost and is it covered by health insurance?

Great question. We were listening to the "Presidential" spiel at work this afternoon, and one of our corporate directors figured that the way things are right now, we'd be paying a couple of hundred for each employee every week.

Ain't, as they say, sustainable.

50 posted on 09/09/2021 6:33:24 PM PDT by JennysCool ('It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.' - Mark Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the feds mandate it they sure better pay for it. That said I did do a number of rapid PCR tests for travel that was 75 bucks so I could return to the USA. The new tests don’t even go all the way up the nose they have you blow your nose clean then swab the inside of each nostril 1/2 inch in not the painful deep core.drilling of a year
Ago. I travel a LOT so every time I leave the USA to get back in you must test negative.


51 posted on 09/09/2021 6:33:33 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: smokingfrog

All those I listed are HUMAN viruses. That is why a vaccine is successful against them. They do not mutate...at least as of now they havent.

Corona is a flu/cold type virus. It mutates and can escape any vaccine invented to combat it.

So, next time your medical provider gets to claiming that we mandated vaccines for those, tell him that the only reason they were successful was that they worked because those were human viruses and not a virus like the flu/colds etc.


52 posted on 09/09/2021 6:38:39 PM PDT by crz
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To: JD_UTDallas
I personally don’t know a single business owner in Texas who has lost a needs of the business staffing reduction in an audit not one.

How is this any different than any other state? I've never been through a reduction in staff. We were always so competitive for workers that we were almost constantly in hire mode.

53 posted on 09/09/2021 6:39:04 PM PDT by Bearshouse (Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. *Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BobL
The article says that Biden CAN mandate this, based on the following 1905 Supreme Court ruling:

“It is within the police power of a State to enact a compulsory vaccination law, and it is for the legislature, and not for the courts, to determine

Wrong on two counts. The Federal Government is not a state. The Feds have no authority to do this. The state or federal Legislature can pass a law not a Executive can issue a decree.

54 posted on 09/09/2021 6:41:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Bearshouse; tatown; Rusty0604; djstex; luvie

FTA....

TEXAS (Texas Tribune) — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott blasted President Joe Biden on Thursday after Biden ordered large employers to require their workers to get vaccinated against COVID-19 — or get tested frequently to prove they don’t have the virus.

Abbott — who has resisted making vaccinations mandatory in any form in Texas, going as far as to bar local governments and school districts from enacting their own vaccine mandates — dubbed Biden’s move to compel businesses with more than 100 employees to make their workforce either get the shot or submit a negative COVID-19 test result each week “a power grab.” The sweeping order would cover an estimated 80 million American workers.

“The federal government needs to stop trying to run private businesses,” Abbott spokesperson Renae Eze said in a statement. “Texans and Americans alike have learned and mastered the safe practices to protect themselves and their loved ones from COVID, and do not need the government to tell them how to do so.”

Abbott has encouraged Texans to get vaccinated but insists that they shouldn’t be forced to do so. At the governor’s request, state lawmakers will consider legislation to bar local governments from mandating COVID-19 vaccinations for their residents when they convene later this month for a third special session.

In the meantime, the governor’s office and Attorney General Ken Paxton already are hammering out a course of legal action against the Biden administration, Eze said.

There’s legal precedent in Biden’s favor that establishes the federal government’s authority to mandate vaccinations, said Larry Stuart, a Houston employment lawyer — pointing to a 1905 Supreme Court case in which the justices ruled that states could enforce mandatory vaccinations against smallpox.

“I think that the reality is that this is going to become much more normalized and widespread,” Stuart said. “People who have been opposing it for political reasons or based on information that may or may not be scientifically based are going to find themselves with some hard choices about either getting vaccinated or being unemployed.”

Less than half of Texans have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. Nationwide, that percentage stands at about 53% — a figure that has frustrated the Biden administration in light of the widespread availability of free vaccine doses.

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Did you read THIS line?? ....

At the governor’s request, state lawmakers will consider legislation to bar local governments from mandating COVID-19 vaccinations for their residents...

REAT THAT ^ AGAIN!

And, this employment lawyer sounds like he’s full of beans.....says there’s federal precedent....but, then cites a 1905 SCOTUS ruling about STATES rights.


55 posted on 09/09/2021 6:42:26 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

Have you ever read the actual ruling of Jacobson vs Mass?

Apples to oranges one affects only the individual and the unborn child. The others is a public health issue.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/

Pay particular attention to who can order vaccination and most importantly revaccination. Remember this is the highest court of the land barring a new congressional legislation signed by the big guy which then stands up to USSC review of it’s constitutionality or bypassing the USSC with a constitutional amendment this current ruling stands as the existing force of law.


56 posted on 09/09/2021 6:44:48 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Bayard

LOL....great point to this fail, STATES rights ‘precedent’ cited by this lawyer.


57 posted on 09/09/2021 6:45:05 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Jane Long
Did you read THIS line?? ....

I did not see that. Great news.

58 posted on 09/09/2021 6:45:35 PM PDT by Bearshouse (Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. *Thomas Jefferson)
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59 posted on 09/09/2021 6:46:04 PM PDT by knarf (qa)
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To: cableguymn

I think it has something to do with the fair labor standards act. Feds leave “small” businesses “unregulated”.


60 posted on 09/09/2021 6:48:12 PM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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