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Russia warns Ukraine and other neighbors to draw lessons from fall of Kabul
112.International ^ | August 27, 2021 | Pavel Felgenhauer

Posted on 08/27/2021 12:07:28 PM PDT by elpadre

The sudden collapse of the Afghan National Army and security forces, the fall of Kabul without a fight, President Ashraf Ghani fleeing the country, and the victorious Taliban taking everything are currently a source of mass revelry for the state-controlled Russian media. The propaganda machine describes the hasty and disorganized withdrawal of the United States and allied forces from Afghanistan, along with the collapse of their Afghan allies, as a turning point, signaling the decline of US regional and global power and credibility. Russian outlets accuse US President Joseph Biden of double-dealing and incompetence (Rossiyskaya Gazeta, August 17). Ukraine and other former Soviet republics seeking alliances with the West are told to take notice. The underlying message in all this coverage and commentary is that the US may abandon them and flee when Russian (or pro-Russian) forces sweep in to cleanse the collaborators out of Kyiv and other “historically Russian” cities (Vzglyad, August 16).

This bout of gloating could be written off as another opportunistic Kremlin propaganda campaign, exploiting PR ammunition provided by the mainstream media in the US and Europe. But actually, the top Russian officialdom is publicly backing up the present anti-American onslaught and, in some cases, exceeding it in outspokenness.

The speaker of the State Duma (lower chamber of the Russian parliament), Vyacheslav Volodin (57), has written that the entire US foreign policy is collapsing. Volodin accuses Washington of facilitating an increase of opiate production in Afghanistan “hundreds of times” while impoverishing the Afghan people. The US and its Western allies have been spending staggering amounts of money to “promote democracy,” but the results have been of little value (T.me/vv_volodin, August 17).

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev (70), President Vladimir Putin’s right-hand man and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan’s counterpart in US-Russian consultations, has accused ...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bideneffect; communism; putin; russia; sovietunion; ukraine; ussr

1 posted on 08/27/2021 12:07:28 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: elpadre

Well, can’t say he is wrong.


2 posted on 08/27/2021 12:09:12 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: elpadre
The US and its Western allies have been spending staggering amounts of money to “promote democracy,” but the results have been of little value

Well, unless you consider, getting culturally enriched with hundreds of thousands of Muzzie refugees to be of "little value".

3 posted on 08/27/2021 12:09:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Well, unless you consider, getting culturally enriched with hundreds of thousands of Muzzie refugees to be of "little value".

Absolutely it is of a HUGE value, in absolute numbers.

The value of the real number is a HUGE negative number, the absolute number, stripped of its negative sign is therefore also HUGE!

4 posted on 08/27/2021 12:22:46 PM PDT by null and void (No jab/no job=only the compliant can work, they won't spread dangerous ideas around the workplace!)
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Absolutely it is of a HUGE value, in absolute numbers.

Certainly to the Democrats.

5 posted on 08/27/2021 12:25:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

And mathematicians...


6 posted on 08/27/2021 12:26:07 PM PDT by null and void (No jab/no job=only the compliant can work, they won't spread dangerous ideas around the workplace!)
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To: elpadre

I am sure that deep in the bowels of the Russian and Chinese governments, their strategists are wondering if the Americans are so abysmally stupid as to actually sit by and let the doddering old fool completely destroy the country only because he was sworn in and “we are a nation of laws”. Say, fire off a couple of ICBMs and count on
Biden to not retaliate, or surrender, and it would stand with the Joints Chiefs, the military, etc.


7 posted on 08/27/2021 12:52:07 PM PDT by odawg
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Lesson 1: Xao Bai-din is a puppet of Communist China. Do not trust anything he says without first checking with his Communist handlers.

Lesson 2: Court martial any general who suggest abandoning your airbase BEFORE you get everyone out.

Lesson 3: That 10% that got "kicked up to the big guy" may have been offset by someone else's bribe. Ask for a receipt and make sure you pay extra for the bribe insurance.

Lesson 4: That painting you bought from Hunter Biden for $550k USD isn't guaranteed to get you any truthful information.

Lesson 5: Hunter Biden prefers Asian prostitutes over Russian ones. Plan accordingly.

8 posted on 08/27/2021 1:33:05 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: elpadre

It is a Ukrainian piece of propaganda. I wouldn’t believe what ukis say.


9 posted on 08/27/2021 1:44:59 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: elpadre

The Biden Effect


10 posted on 08/27/2021 3:10:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: corkoman

Yep.


11 posted on 03/11/2022 7:14:29 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: corkoman

Can we get a second opinion from the South Vietnamese?


12 posted on 03/11/2022 7:20:29 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: elpadre

Putie should learn from Afghanistan too. When Sovietsvinvaded


13 posted on 03/11/2022 7:20:52 PM PST by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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To: elpadre

I went to the link and it wouldn’t let me.


14 posted on 03/11/2022 7:27:09 PM PST by dforest
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To: ZULU; elpadre; SeekAndFind; Meet the New Boss; All

There is little for Ukraine to learn from the fall of Kabul. The Afghanis were a feudal society with warlords with a number of different constituencies. There were several different tribal groups some of whom hated each other. Except for areas along the eastern edge of Ukraine, these people are pretty well united in their opinion of what needs to be done. Also they are educated and know how to flush a toilet.

On the other hand there is a lot for Putin to learn from the fall of Kabul. Russians behaved horribly to the people of Afghanistan and were well hated and overjoyed when Russia finally gave up and left. Hopefully they will have the same experience from similar behavior in Ukraine.


15 posted on 03/12/2022 1:20:00 AM PST by gleeaikin (ould the , vitamins,Question authority!)
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