Posted on 08/23/2021 5:28:28 PM PDT by Meah
Paper at - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
Vaccine used was Oxford-AstraZeneca
Ping
Please read the comments section from that
website first, folks.
Good - thanks. same criticism. Astra zeneca is not used in this country and not approved here. It is a small number of people with viral loads compared on different strains with no mention of a control group or the vaccination status of the prior positive people. But them headlines sure are sensational. I also note that despite the high viral loads none of the breakthrough cases had significant illness much the same as we are seeing here with breakthrough cases
They want to confuse people. They think dumbos will accept anything they say. I see more young people these days waiting in line to be vaxxed at one pharmacy store.
FROM YOUR EXCERPT:
“…The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated….”
FROM THE ACTUAL PAPER YOU LINK TO IN POST 1:
“… Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.…”
The excerpt was dishonestly MISREPRESENTING the findings which ACTUALLY was comparing the viral loads of the highly infectious Delta variant with the viral loads associated with the much less infectious earlier variants. The study was NOT comparing viral loads of vaccinated individuals with viral loads of unvaccinated individuals.
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE… the highly infectious Delta variant causes a high viral load compared to low infectious variants. Stunning news!
Vax shills are shillin’ and spinning.
Usual suspect.
Don’t shed on me!
Covid Marys.
You are wrong about breakthrough cases here and severity. But you know that.
Been there, done that.
You’re right; this is from a crap site and is duplicitous.
Yes it is. Sadly, FR has become fake news central.
This study says it’s 251 times higher than in March 2020. In the unvaccinated, the level is 1000x times higher.
- in a population that was basically a petri dish - unable to leave the hospital, surrounded by positive patients, and dormed with other nurses in close quarters for 60 days. A ‘hyper challenge’.
What it might point to is the need for first responders to continue testing until the pandemic is over. It was found in England that 10% of inhospital covid was acquired after admission and pointed to a breaches of infection control protocol by tired workers.
” Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020....
... Breakthrough Delta variant infections are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies, explaining the transmission between the vaccinated people. Physical distancing measures remain critical to reduce SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant transmission....”
It matches what is in the article.
You have to wonder if the problem with anti-vaxxers is they can’t read or they can’t tell the truth.
From the paper:
”Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.“
The issue is viral loads with the Delta vs. Alpha variants and has been well known for months.
Re: 44 - Good points, thanks.
I am right. I have treated them. Your clinical experience?
No the headline says vaccinated have 251X. The correct headline is that Delta with vaccine have 251X but whether is is the strain or the vaccine is unknown.
Not what we’re seeing in TX.
Breakthrough cases are a real thing. As I suspect they are in most states, regardless what the shills say.
Severe illnesses, from the breakthrough cases.
So much for...safe, effective. Will prevent infection. No, wait....will prevent serious illness. No, wait....GET YOUR BOOSTER SPIKES.
It has to be intentional.
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