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To: FreedomPoster
I don't think you should trust anything. But I would suggest looking at facts, and not youtube videos full of innuendo (not saying you did the latter). No vaccine is perfect and certainly there are more problems with these new vaccines. There are two types, mRNA with the nano-lipid coating and altered adenovirus. Interestingly the third type, novovax, is just the spike protein and seems to be very effective.

Spike proteins have received a lot of innuendo. Getting spike proteins in your blood is far less serious than most COVID infections. I think that is an objective fact. For example: the small number of pediatric myocarditis from vaccines versus a much larger number from COVID. The questions are how effective spike proteins are as an antigen. Second question what are the health effects of spike proteins.

There will be objective science on those two questions in coming years. You could argue that we should do science first, then jabs, but poltics overrode that this time.

55 posted on 08/22/2021 6:02:07 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

>>You could argue that we should do science first, then jabs, but poltics overrode that this time.

That is a core issue I’ve got with all of this, right there.

That combined with the suppression of Ivermectin-based therapies, which could have prevented the granting of the EUAs, makes me vary wary of embracing the “vaccines”. It all looks like a money and power grab from here.

The Dean of Emory Medical School, a top-flight operation, co-wrote an article in the Times of India in May that among other things advocated for Ivermectin use against Covid. That article is here:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/existing-affordable-drugs-could-rapidly-reduce-covid-19-cases-and-deaths-in-india/

The author on Emory’s leadership page:

https://www.med.emory.edu/about/leadership/index.html

This has =zero= coverage in any large US media, including his hometown media, the AJC and CNN, the last I looked. Zero. None. Nada. That’s quite a newsworthy story on the face of it.

And India seems to be muddling through Covid fairly well despite being such a poor country overall.

Try and convince me there isn’t collusion among Big Media, Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big Gov’t Public Health to suppress this. Good luck.

Until the medical establishment comes clean on this sort of thing, I’m just in no hurry to embrace a rushed EUA therapy with no long-term track record on side effects. Especially when side effects are extremely well known for the drugs in these cheap alternative therapies, which appear have a risk profile about like aspirin, perhaps better than acetaminophen. And that is over many, many millions of users, billions of doses, over 40 years of use.


65 posted on 08/22/2021 6:29:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: palmer

It is not a vaccine.


77 posted on 08/22/2021 7:20:26 AM PDT by cp124 (Focus on treatment and not an experimental vaccine/flu shot.)
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To: palmer

I was hoping to wait for the Norovax for my 16 year old daughter as it seemed the safest for her (fewer blood clot or heart issues) but it doesn’t seem available anytime soon so she got her first Pfizer shot yesterday.

She (and I) decided to not try to hold out any longer because the way the CA K-12 public health guidance is set up, unvaxxed students are “modified quarantined” (banned) from extracurriculars and sports (but not the classroom) for 10 days when they are merely “exposed” to a positive case. Vaxxed students are not.

The FDA is set to approve Pfizer for 16 and up on Monday so I imagine the K-12 requirement in CA will soon follow.


86 posted on 08/22/2021 8:17:13 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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