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Fiddling While Kabul Falls
Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2021 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/20/2021 4:50:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

Historians aren't actually sure that Nero caused or neglected a fire that consumed much of ancient Rome. Historians, however much they'd like to, won't be able to deny that President Joe Biden bears full responsibility for America's humiliating retreat from Afghanistan, and our neglect of the tens of thousands who aided us and now face torture and death from the Taliban.

"The drawdown is proceeding in a secure and orderly way," Biden assured Americans on July 8. A Taliban takeover of Afghanistan "is not inevitable," he said, pledging to "continue to provide civilian and humanitarian assistance, including speaking out for the rights of women and girls."

Asked if there were parallels with the American abandonment of Saigon, he saw "zero." "The Taliban is not the South – the North Vietnamese army," he said. "There's going to be no circumstance where you see people lifted off the roof of an embassy in the – of the United States from Afghanistan."

Events last weekend forced Biden to go on national television Monday night and eat his words. He insisted that his administration was "clear-eyed about the risks" and "planned for every contingency," but conceded, in fine understatement, that "this did unfold more quickly than we had anticipated."

Partisans of the president say he's only doing what the public wanted, citing polls showing large majorities favoring withdrawal. But poll results depend on how questions are framed, and opinions can change sharply as events change.

Thus, in July, the conservative polling firm Echelon Insights found 47% favoring the U.S. "maintain a small military presence" and only 36% favoring "end" military presence "entirely." Last weekend, as news accounts showed Taliban advances and U.S. forces in flight, the Republican firm Trafalgar found 69% disapproval of Biden on Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is only one example of how Biden's predictions about his policies' effects have been belied by facts on the ground. An "orderly" withdrawal has become a rout. The scene of desperate Vietnamese vainly seeking escape in Saigon in 1975 has been reprised by the pictures of desperate Afghans clinging to the wheels of American planes and then falling to their deaths in Kabul in 2021.

Similarly, though many news media are not showing much video, illegal border crossings in July hit nearly 213,000, a record number for this century, even though Biden predicted crossings would decline in the summer heat (which is real: I've been to Laredo in August, when it's over 100 with not a cloud in the sky). Biden's administration has been crowding illegal immigrants into the facilities it campaigned against, and has been dispersing COVID-infected individuals around the country.

Homicide rates in major cities continue to rise at rates unprecedented since 1960, and after three months of 5% inflation, price increases are looking less "transitory" and more like galloping inflation. We seem like we're headed back to the 1970s; the decade when Biden's national political career began.

Back then, he was part of large Democratic majorities in Congress that blocked attempts to stop North Vietnam's conquest of the South. As helicopters lifted off the Saigon embassy, freshman Sen. Biden was unrepentant. "The United States has no obligation to evacuate one, or 100,001 South Vietnamese," he said at one point. Like other Democrats, he complained that our allied government was corrupt and ineffective.

He struck the same note Monday, blaming our Afghan allies for the collapse he failed to anticipate. "We gave them every tool they could need. We paid their salaries, provided for the maintenance of their air force," he said. "We gave them every chance to determine their own future."

He lamented that Afghan leaders refused his advice "to seek a political settlement with the Taliban" and "to clean up the corruption in government" – advice much like American liberals' complaints about the South Vietnamese in the 1970s.

Those complaints were, in turn, echoes of the descriptions of Chiang Kai-shek's nationalist regime by liberals defending against charges that they "lost China" to Mao Zedong's communist army. The nationalists, they said, were corrupt, right-wing and unwilling to fight hard.

History has its ironies. The Vietnamese, nominally communist, foster capitalistic growth and pro-American feeling. Chiang's nationalists fled to Taiwan, which is now politically democratic, economically dynamic and threatened by Xi Jinping's increasingly aggressive China.

After Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan, "the Taiwanese government probably is reevaluating whether it is futile to resist China's invasion," wrote China-born author Helen Raleigh, while New York Times columnist Bret Stephens wrote that "every enemy will draw the lesson that the United States is a feckless power," and "every ally – Taiwan, the Baltic States, Israel, Japan -- will draw the lesson that it is on its own."

Meanwhile, after his 18-minute speech, Biden returned to vacationing behind the gates of Camp David.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; wot

1 posted on 08/20/2021 4:50:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What Flavor Taliban Joe?


2 posted on 08/20/2021 4:52:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Kaslin

The local Miami media coverage on Afghanistan has dwindled.

Some of us are working out early at the gym... watching the news of local stations...I have seen literally about 25-45 seconds of Afghanistan news in the last hour.

Lots of Rona fear mongering, though.


3 posted on 08/20/2021 4:55:05 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Kaslin
I remember the propaganda the Laft pushed during the Vietnam War about the South Vietnamese government being "corrupt" - but of course, our government was a wondrous vision of fairness and honor, right? Given the state of politics in Asia, the government of South Vietnam was actually wonderfully fair and free, given that they didn't actually interfere with people's private lives, tax the heck out of them, or kill their village leaders in the middle of the night like the VC.

But the Left's campaign was so thorough that our media at the time always referred to the South Vietnamese government as "the Saigon regime" throughout the war but never called the North Vietnamese government except the "Hanoi Government", quietly poisoning the well for American minds.

4 posted on 08/20/2021 5:03:56 AM PDT by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: Kaslin

Bkmk


5 posted on 08/20/2021 5:09:40 AM PDT by sauropod (Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
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To: Kaslin
Milly priorities
6 posted on 08/20/2021 5:35:09 AM PDT by New Perspective (#NotMyPresident -Proud father of a son with DS & fighting to keep him off biden's death panels.)
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7 posted on 08/20/2021 5:36:18 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for criminals.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Fox has been covering Afghanistan extensively, but MSM will certainly taper off as soon as the can for Biden’s benefit.
I think Biden politically survives unless a lot of Americans die. People won’t wake up until the next 9/11.


8 posted on 08/20/2021 5:38:14 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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9 posted on 08/20/2021 5:45:20 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doen't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Western NY News Pivot:

Canadian Border now closed till 9/21 (silly, they’ve done this every month since 5/20)
Governor transition.

Oh, and Afghanistan? This is the ONLY news on that subject: Here’s the quote from the incoming Governor...

“...When I served in Congress, I met with many Afghans when I traveled to their country. They were there for us, now it’s time for us to help them.

NY is committed to doing our part to welcome refugees fleeing Afghanistan.

The arms of the Statue of Liberty are open wide to you...”


10 posted on 08/20/2021 6:01:41 AM PDT by jimjohn (...like Donkey Kong.)
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To: New Perspective

That’s funny. I had they same thought that Milly cross dressed after dark.


11 posted on 08/20/2021 6:23:26 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: DeplorablePaul

LOL, it gets to the core of the serpents.


12 posted on 08/20/2021 6:44:24 AM PDT by New Perspective (#NotMyPresident -Proud father of a son with DS & fighting to keep him off biden's death panels.)
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To: Kaslin

Rome fell through a combination of military overextension and internal corruption, a combination our leaders have copied to perfection.


13 posted on 08/20/2021 6:50:15 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: FormerFRLurker

Illegal immigrants swarming across the border also played a big part in the fall of the Roman Empire (Goths, Vandals, Huns, etc.).


14 posted on 08/20/2021 8:37:31 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: FormerFRLurker
Rome fell through a combination of military overextension and internal corruption, ...

I heard it was because of widespread toxicity thanks to lead plumbing.

That was the theory that was bandied about during my undergraduate work in Classics/Classical Civilization (UCSB).

Rome also engaged in continuous war for centuries during the early Republic, not just during the later Republic and Empire.

I disliked Roman history then. Today is different. It speaks to the twilight of our Republic.

15 posted on 08/20/2021 9:53:25 PM PDT by nonsporting (And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed … Galatians 3:29)
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To: Liz

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16 posted on 08/21/2021 8:31:26 AM PDT by thinden
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