Posted on 08/17/2021 12:33:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone
“icclearly wrote: “By the way, can you prove that the vaccines ARE NOT causing adverse effects —”
It is up to those who claim the vaccine is causing these deaths to prove their claim.”
So in the meantime, with unknowns abound we are expected to take an experimental vaccine that has a very limited life, as most recently announced, along with the allegation that it has serious adverse effects.
You go right ahead and do that. I’m sure not!
icclearly wrote: “So in the meantime, with unknowns abound we are expected to take an experimental vaccine that has a very limited life, as most recently announced, along with the allegation that it has serious adverse effects.”
First, what excuse will you use when the vaccines are fully approved in September?
Second, once again, you’re making allegations which you cannot prove.
“Second, once again, you’re making allegations which you cannot prove”
I know you’ve got to be kidding! Your view is that the government that has changed their story 20 or so times about the virus and what to do about it since the pandemic started and who will likely approve the vaccine for all the same political, is someone to trust!
Well, you trust them, my friend. I sure don’t and I happen to believe the scientists who tell us there are problems with the vaccines — some serious.
Simply look at the facts. The COVID death rate in a state like MA which has one of the highest vaccination rates per million in the country is HIGHER than the state of MS that has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the nation. The facts don’t support what we are being told. Look at the rate of COVID infections per million in the UK territory of Gibraltar with one of the highest vaccination rates in the world which has a higher case per million count than the US with an approximately 70% vax rate. Should I even mention Israel with the same story?
In fact, even disregarding the problems with the vaccine some studies indicate they do not protect against the variants. In fact, some reports indicate the vaccines may be causing the varients through ADE (https://bit.ly/363PBMk) The facts stated above sure seem to support that, don’t they?
You do what you believe and I’ll do what I believe — which is the opposite of what you seem to be saying.
You can have your own opinion — but not your own facts!
icclearly wrote: “You can have your own opinion — but not your own facts!”
Well, that’s exactly what you’re doing, having your own opinion of how to interpret certain facts.
“icclearly wrote: “You can have your own opinion — but not your own facts!”
Well, that’s exactly what you’re doing, having your own opinion of how to interpret certain facts.”
Oh, come on man! You can do better than that. Point out where I am wrong. Tell me how you interpret the fact that a high vaccination rate does not lead to a lower infection or death rate when compared to those less vaccinated areas as I indicated.
If vaccines are working, and not causing the problem, pray tell me why the infection and/or death rate is going up and not down in those areas?
You don’t need to be a philosophy major to come up with any other logical conclusion but the one I stated, now do you?
icclearly wrote: “Oh, come on man! You can do better than that. Point out where I am wrong. Tell me how you interpret the fact that a high vaccination rate does not lead to a lower infection or death rate when compared to those less vaccinated areas as I indicated.”
Cases are declining in Gibraltar.
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/gibraltar/
Israel. “The likely source of COVID-19 infection in all 37 healthcare workers with available data was an unvaccinated person, which was a household member in 57% of the cases. In 30% of cases, the suspected source was an unvaccinated fellow healthcare worker or patient, of which 7 of 11 were linked to a single hospital outbreak involving an unvaccinated index patient who had been receiving noninvasive positive-pressure ventilation before being diagnosed as having the Alpha variant.”
So, in fact, you’re interpreting the data IAW your biases.
I just submitted my VAERS report today....
Thanks for posting!!
The facts are since the Covid vaccines came out, there has been huge spike in VAERS incident reports. The CDC and FDA have taken no action on this so far.
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